Have guys broken the contract? and will they come after you ?

dont think it has been tested recently since most hires came from 2007 and are still stuck here...however, i wouldnt want to be the first person to skip town with everything crazy as it is here..

If RAH is so desperate for pilots and is offering a $5000 signing (I'd love to see what strings are attached to that), why are they requiring 200 multi?

Because at the end of the day you have to be insurable...

flying 121... with less than 200 hours.... yeah....

I don't know about the insurable part. Plenty of places have hired and continue to hire with less than 200 mutli. Over the last year, 100 mutli seemed to be standard at many places.

I'm sure everyone has different insurance carriers and criteria.

I think you will start to see minimums like 1500/25. If airlines can't drop the flight hour minimums, then the only way they can get more candidates is to drop the multi minimums.

I have a friend who just got his commercial and had two job offers. One getting multi time, but at 1/2 to 1/3 the rate, and the other getting single engine time. I told him to get the single engine time. I think it will be much more valuable with the new rule.

I would recommend him to get the twin time, there are plenty of jobs out there where you can build SE time but the jobs to build ME time are hard to come by!

People have left. I have seen 5 people from my new hire class last year leave already. The company hasn't come after them for the contract. So who knows if they will selectively or at all.

DCA...senior or jr base?
what r the DCA resv line/QOL like?

How about LGA?

Senior/decent

Very junior

to be more specific...on the Republic FO side....could someone in the know, please put the bases most Jr to Senior..thx

Republic:
CMH DCA
DEN GSO IND MCI
PHL PIT

Again, courtesy of our friends at the Bureau of Labor Statistics:

Airline and Commercial Pilots : Occupational Outlook Handbook : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Airline and Commercial Pilots 2010 median pay - $92,060 per year

92>68, but oh yeah - I forgot - these statistics on pilot salaries are hopelessly incorrect. But for sure the lawyer ones are correct.

Most senior is definitely DEN...here's my guess at the rundown from Jr to Sr.

CMH PIT PHL IND DCA MCI DEN

Ya and how are the stats made up? Do 25% make 100k+ plus but go to ivy league level school, and 75% make 40k or less??? How many airline pilots could get into and pass an ivy league law school??? Heck how many could even get a law degree, and what % of that years graduates would they be worth?? I bet most of us would be 50% or less.

MOST airline pilots are not A++ students who go to Brown or Stanford. We are B- dyslexics who go to Purdue. But we love flying and go through the difficult and exhausting process of becoming one.

Dude, seriously every time you write something you continue to dumb-down the previous comment you have posted, it's hilarious.

I don't know where to start with this.
You're not even comparing 'apples to apples', so to speak. Or even 'apples to oranges' for that matter. At least those are both fruits. You, Wingtips, seem to be comparing 'apples to pipe wrenches' in this case.

You are comparing two vastly different skill sets, job functions, and educations. I don't know about your airline, but when I go to work, I don't read case studies and then write a summary about the upcoming leg. While we're talking about lawyers, did you know that in California one can become a lawyer without ever attending law school? It's true. Are you going to paint all lawyers (or at least all CA lawyers) into a lower class since some among them didn't submit to the same lofty educational standards as others?

I know plenty of pilots with law degrees, MBA's, and any other professional certification under the sun. I also know pilots who didn't complete high school. Can't necessarily tell the difference in the flight deck.


-On the other hand, I think you proved your own point rather well.

Thanks for the information. You're missing the main point. A law graduate after 9 months is making 68K.....the median pay, meaning the middle...is 92K for pilots. How long do you think it takes the average pilot to even make it to 92k? The average airline pilot age is 41.2 according to Air Transport Association.
Then again average starting salary in a private pratice is 108k.

So tell me how you think being a pilot is a better option

Acutally wingtips, please apply to RAh. I will email you when you turn 41, and ask you. A) are you still an f/o at RAH?
B) Are you making 92k at Rah?
C) how many times have you been furloughed?

I'm sure a rah guy can chime in with the correct answers to those questions.

Ha PIT and IND are junior? 07 IND and PIT hires still on reserve iffy at both.

Not sure about your list.... more like:

MCI PHL CMH DCA IND PIT DEN

I'm a 9/07 hire and that order seems a bit off. Obviously relative seniority can be drastically different month to month (in terms of hire date and base seniority), but as a 9/07 hire, I almost missed '07 and so that order looks wrong to me.

GSO is missing from the list too as the most junior base for '07 hires. IND is way off in that list too. It is one of the most junior bases at RW (YX).

Oh, and this late '07 hire can hold a line, no problem, in PIT. You must be almost an '08 hire to miss a line in PIT

Nope, If you are a 9/07 hire, I'm senior to you. Late 07/early 08 hires in PIT bounce between lines and RSV. Ask them how APR went...GSO is prob the most junior. Then again, wait a bit and we'll close all those down and open 4 new bases at the whim of BB and co.

Best place to be on a base seniority list is probably CLE for expressjet, far from RAH. lol

Does the Republic side fly exclusively for a particular master(Legacy)? or is it a mix(UAL/US/DL)?

Republic does US Airways and Frontier "express"
Shuttle does UAL and DL flying.
Chautauqua does everybody.

Not making a judgement about better. I give up.

.

Giggity?







(filler)

You know "plenty" of pilots with law degrees, mba's etc? Not calling you a liar, but I find that REALLY hard to believe. Could it be that you exaggerated to make your point? I've been in the 121 world since the mid nineties for two airlines and have NEVER flown with either.
Seriously, how many have you ACTUALLY flown with? One? None? Be honest.

My new-hire sim partner has an MBA. Just started at SWA a couple months ago. We also have a lawyer or two I have flown with. One is a specialist in aviation law and earned is fortune as a lawyer before entering the 121 world. He now works with our ALPA MEC and has been a strong advocate for the pilots at my company. The other one I know of got his law degree from UC Berkeley but never took the CA Bar Exam. Comes across like Forrest Gump but is in fact sharp as a tack.

There aren't a lot of graduate degrees in aviation but they're out there. I've flown with with a several. They are invariably good to fly with because their life's experiences extend beyond having been a CFI and their formal education didn't end at the age of 19 or 20.

GR, right? Good dude, met him a handful of times before I left AWAC.

APC member 'Huck' is a FDX pilot and attorney who has passed the bar exam.

I know at least half-dozen pilots pursuing various graduate degrees right now, not including my own pursuit of a MBA.

Is it common? No, probably not...but its not exactly rare, either.

Here is the sad part...20yrs in aviation, I'm sitting furloughed...trying to decide between regional#1 or regional#2...uhmm let's see...#1 $20k/yr, and #2 $21k/yr......and my wife hands me an ad in the local paper for an ultrasound specialist, "will pay for training- 6 months to get your certificate...pay: 40-70,000/year." ***!

An 18yr old high school grad with a 6 month community college certificate can smear gooey ****t on an over stuffed belly with oversized stretch marks and earn 40-70,000/year. While an airline pilot starts at $20,000/yr with all string attached.

What happened here? how did we get here? ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!

So why aren't you doing it then? Or is that the answer to your question?

because it would be a real job, and not as fun as flying duh. I am not sure how you got here, and can not find something better. Do you live in JAX and are on furlough from EGL?

your missing the point.