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Old 03-19-2012 | 02:57 PM
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My point of contention is, why did the IBT union sign off on such a pos contract.
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Old 03-19-2012 | 03:24 PM
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Assuming you weren't a Misty, why the handle?

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Old 03-19-2012 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MistyFAC
My point of contention is, why did the IBT union sign off on such a pos contract.
At the time it wasn't a pos contract. But yes, the flat of pay scale up to 99 seats was a mistake.
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Old 03-19-2012 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
...but my point was made to a poster pointing to the highest a legacy CA would EVER make; and I just don't think that amoount is peanuts.USMCFLYR
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The sad reality is that very few pilots will ever see the big money that the 1% of legacy pilots earned. Heck, most of the legacy guys will never see the money they once earned.
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Old 03-19-2012 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 9kBud
Because I don't want to be the phone guy.
And this is precisely the attitude that scumbag regional airlines are counting on. "Hey come fly this shiny new jet for $21,000/year, because it's better that driving a service truck for the phone company!"

P.S. My buddy at the phone company also has rock solid job security. Until people stop using phones, internet and satelite TV, he's legally protected by a bulletproof contract.
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Old 03-19-2012 | 04:03 PM
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I find it rather implausible the guy driving the phone truck makes 120K/year.

Explanations????

Not US Dollars
Manages the other guys driving the phone trucks
Owns the company and <see above>
Lives in a city where 6 figures don't pay the rent
Finds one job a year to rewire an entire 6 floor building for 120K
etc, etc, ad nauseum, que es do ne um <thunk>
There's no such thing as a bulletproof contract

This coming from a guy with 20 years service in a highly desirable field (you're using one of the devices now).

Hey - I could be wrong but here's google's results:

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An estimated 156,350 telecommunications line technicians worked in the U.S. in May 2010. The average salary was $50,080 per year. Salaries ranged from $26,910 to $73,320 per year, which includes the 10th through 90th percentiles. The 25th percentile earned $35,180 per year and the 75th percentile earned $64,890 per year.

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Old 03-19-2012 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by N9373M
I find it rather implausible the guy driving the phone truck makes 120K/year.

Explanations????

Not US Dollars
Manages the other guys driving the phone trucks
Owns the company and <see above>
Lives in a city where 6 figures don't pay the rent
Finds one job a year to rewire an entire 6 floor building for 120K
etc, etc, ad nauseum, que es do ne um <thunk>
There's no such thing as a bulletproof contract

This coming from a guy with 20 years service in a highly desirable field (you're using one of the devices now).

Hey - I could be wrong but here's google's results:

Salary

An estimated 156,350 telecommunications line technicians worked in the U.S. in May 2010. The average salary was $50,080 per year. Salaries ranged from $26,910 to $73,320 per year, which includes the 10th through 90th percentiles. The 25th percentile earned $35,180 per year and the 75th percentile earned $64,890 per year.
You must be a management troll, no way a "real" airline pilot comes in here with box plot numbers, to fancy. You ban counter, but all kidding aside, I wish the general public would see this type of breakdown for Domestic departures!
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Old 03-19-2012 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Beechlover
If you plan to work at a Republic Airways Holdings carrier, this will include Chautauqua, Republic, and Shuttle Airlines that all operate under the same (expired in 2007) contract and same payscale/work rules under one seniority list. To those interested in working here, the link below will give you another tool to use in making your decision to come here. Just trying to keep this topic visible to those who may be doing the job hunt. Doesn't help me to dissuade folks, but from one pilot to another, you should know what your getting yourself into if you decide to come here.

RAH Contract NOW! | Teamsters Local 357

Read and heed guys! There is a great wealth of factual information of life here at RAH. The only thing I would add is the fact that this company has furloughd pilots three out of the previous four consecutive years. The ONLY reason there were no 'imposed' furloughs in 2011 was due to the pilot group taking voluntary furloughs, if only to escape this place for a few months. Be prepared to be treated like seasonal migrant workers here as displacements are a frequent and regular occurance as well as sitting reserve away from your base/domicile. If you can afford to be furloughd in the fall and work in the spring and summer, then this place is for you! Please gather as much information as possible before quitting a paying job to come here.

Best of luck everybody!!!
If this were to deter people, there would have been no strikes, demonstrations, but rather no pilots to hire for such companies. But, again, there are pilots out there who rather be treated like C$ap and fly airplanes with engines underneath the wing and then cry over their contract once the honeymoon period is over. Why else would companies like Transtates, and Republic exists otherwise?
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Old 03-19-2012 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by What
You must be a management troll, no way a "real" airline pilot comes in here with box plot numbers, to fancy.
The never ending conflict of facts vs some anonymous guy you know.

Every job has it's problems and cycles.
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Old 03-19-2012 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CANAM
And this is precisely the attitude that scumbag regional airlines are counting on. "Hey come fly this shiny new jet for $21,000/year, because it's better that driving a service truck for the phone company!"

P.S. My buddy at the phone company also has rock solid job security. Until people stop using phones, internet and satelite TV, he's legally protected by a bulletproof contract.
My dad use to work for Southern Bell and he thought the same thing until the usual mergers and such came along. I will say that he ended up better than some I've known in the airline industries though.

I don't want to drive the service truck for the phone company (first of all I'm probably not technical enough for the repair job), secondly, times have certainly changed but as I mentioned above, it sounds like my dad was doing the same job as your friend and I know that he didn't make that kind of money. If what you say is true though, sounds like it is a more lucrative job than in the past.

Btw - me not wanting to drive a service truck doesn't make me have SJS. It means that I am a happier person when I am doing a job that I truly enjoy rather than driving a truck and installing telephones. You want NAVAIDs that work - I am there for you. You want a phone line in your house - your friend is there for you. We probably need (and want) both.

As far as the 1% of big money making legacy pilots....well that is why I'm not the one making statements like the one I pointed out. Those ALL and NEVER/EVER statements just usually don't work out very accurately.

USMCFLYR

Edit: I just saw the numbers 73M put up. Yep - that sounds more like my dad
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