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Old 03-20-2012 | 09:48 AM
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Rumor is that Xjet will now offer interviews to applicants with three failed checkrides, providing ONE is the CFI. Anyone heard this?
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Old 03-20-2012 | 10:14 AM
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Haven't heard this, but I can email DR if nobody else has heard.
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Old 03-20-2012 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by airline rc
Rumor is that Xjet will now offer interviews to applicants with three failed checkrides, providing ONE is the CFI. Anyone heard this?
Not worth it. Sure, you go out and bust three rides so you can get an interview at XJet.

But what about all the other airlines out there?
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Old 03-20-2012 | 10:39 AM
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Not worth it. Sure, you go out and bust three rides so you can get an interview at XJet.

But what about all the other airlines out there?
I'm not sure what you mean. You mean even if you get to Xjet it's hard to get anywhere after that?
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Old 03-20-2012 | 10:46 AM
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Am I alone in thinking that anyone who's failed three checkrides should maybe take a strong look at why they are interested in a career in commercial aviation?
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Old 03-20-2012 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MoarAlpha
I'm not sure what you mean. You mean even if you get to Xjet it's hard to get anywhere after that?
The way I read it, it sounded like you need three busts to get an interview. I know that's not what he meant and I forgot to add the smiley.
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Old 03-20-2012 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by saab2000
Am I alone in thinking that anyone who's failed three checkrides should maybe take a strong look at why they are interested in a career in commercial aviation?
At the Delta-owned puppymill where I got my ratings, busts were only bad because it cost you another 350 bucks. Nobody mentioned they would haunt you forever.

Instructors were graded by how many hours their students were taking as well as their failure rate. As long as you were averaging a 70% pass rate, the push was to get them done.
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Old 03-20-2012 | 11:07 AM
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There are plenty of people out there who have failed three checkrides who have gone on to have successful aviation careers. There are plenty of factors that go into initial pilot training. I have see plenty of bad CFI's lead good students down the wrong road because they were mentally checked out. This is not a market that companies can be picky about checkrides anymore. Well maybe they could be they won't find a lot of younger qualified pilots without a few blemishes on their training history.
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Old 03-20-2012 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
At the Delta-owned puppymill where I got my ratings, busts were only bad because it cost you another 350 bucks. Nobody mentioned they would haunt you forever.

Instructors were graded by how many hours their students were taking as well as their failure rate. As long as you were averaging a 70% pass rate, the push was to get them done.
The school I worked at (while not a pilot mill) had a similar mentality. Everyone (all in house examiners included) kept up with the "it's a part 141 school, checkride failures here do not count." Recently that mentality did start to change now that people who graduated with several "Stage check" failures were having hard time getting jobs.
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Originally Posted by Boomer
At the Delta-owned puppymill where I got my ratings, busts were only bad because it cost you another 350 bucks. Nobody mentioned they would haunt you forever.

Instructors were graded by how many hours their students were taking as well as their failure rate. As long as you were averaging a 70% pass rate, the push was to get them done.
Back then a bust didn't haunt you forever.

I distinctly remember an FAA inspector telling me before I even finished the training I was going to bust my CFI ride. It was the norm. No one passed the first time.
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