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vtx531 04-02-2012 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 1162673)
DONT QUIT! Wait for the furlough and collect from the G-man.

If you will not get furloughed and don't want to be an FO forever - QUIT!

Avroman 04-02-2012 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by vtx531 (Post 1162676)
If you will not get furloughed and don't want to be an FO forever - QUIT!

Perfect example why the union needs to make sure this time we bid positions we are willing to go to , then a voluntary furlough option, then everything else.

JetBlast77 04-02-2012 06:48 PM

Someone explain to me how Commutair would possibly finance this. They couldnt even sustain the Q-300s. They were supposed to get more but that was quickly scrapped.

SKYWCRJCA 04-02-2012 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 1162547)
Those q400s are headed to Skywest. But good old Jerry Atkin didn't want us pilots to come with him how does that make you feel? Oh but you will be given preferential interviews I am sure .

Pure BS on your part!

flyingsioux 04-02-2012 07:46 PM

Does anyonw know approximately how many 9L captains are in this position? Looks like the most junior 9e captain is early 07 hire vs mid 09 for 9L.

PeezDog 04-02-2012 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by mrmak2 (Post 1162635)
This is the new regional airline reality. As aircraft shuffle between carriers, there will be a contingent of senior pilots who will hold onto their seat, and simply have a QOL change as the fluctuations come and go (at each airline). There will be junior pilots, who either through furlough or by choice, move airline to airline, following the aircraft indefinately. They will never get a chance to accure seniority and upgrade.

I give the airline career one more year to improve, or show signs of improving. By improving I mean people hiring, upgrading, and not going bankrupt left and right laying people off. If not, I take my free ATP and bounce. Good luck to PNCL guys and gals.

Boomer 04-02-2012 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by PeezDog (Post 1162844)
I give the airline career one more year to improve, or show signs of improving.

I've been saying the same thing since 2005.

Good luck guys.

stis202 04-02-2012 09:15 PM

I'll tell ya lately it feels like this industry is nothing but a dance at the bottom of seniority lists. As flying shifts there is no career progression anymore.

Lone Palm 04-03-2012 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by PeezDog (Post 1162844)
I give the airline career one more year to improve, or show signs of improving. By improving I mean people hiring, upgrading, and not going bankrupt left and right laying people off. If not, I take my free ATP and bounce. Good luck to PNCL guys and gals.


Anyone heard anything on when they will start giving the FO's ATP's? They better get rolling if the deadline is next year.

SrfNFly227 04-03-2012 05:25 AM

If I remember the Bloch award right, the totals are based on a certain number of captains per airplane. The quotas will be reduced as planes are parked. And lucky for the Colgan pilots, the Pinnacle numbers were artificially low. There will always be a handful of left seat spots available for the old Colgan pilots.

This is going to stir the pot a bit, but I feel a need to point out the irony. In the months since the Bloch award was published, I have not heard many Colgan pilots complain about the quotas. Rarely did I read how it was unfair that Colgan pilots were upgrading before the more senior pilots from Pinnacle and Mesaba. We got to hear a lot about how the Q400s were the future of the airline though. Now the tables are turned and suddenly the complaining starts. Is it unfair, of course it is. But it was also unfair for the last 9 months. This industry sucks, that's all there is to it.


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