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Wingtips 04-16-2012 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by SilverandSore (Post 1170379)
Yeah, heaven forbid you put up your own money, run a moderately successful privately owned small airline and expect to get a profit back from your risk....:rolleyes:

what idiot starts their own airline. this is an industry for greedy corporations, and no one left to be sued when the under MX plane crashes, or your poorly trained pilot smashes it in.

Confused 04-16-2012 07:32 PM

Canadian operator westjet, starting it's own in house "regional" with Q400's.

Possibly these birds could end up there. Westjet is always lookin to get a good deal.

zildjian_zach 04-16-2012 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by SilverandSore (Post 1170379)
Yeah, heaven forbid you put up your own money, run a moderately successful privately owned small airline and expect to get a profit back from your risk....:rolleyes:

Throw this sentiment around the C5 crew room and see how many friends you make...

Jamers 04-16-2012 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by zildjian_zach (Post 1170463)
Throw this sentiment around the C5 crew room and see how many friends you make...

Who farted?

MunkyButtr 04-17-2012 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by sinsilvia666 (Post 1170339)
fixed, and yes, it seems nobody cares about on-time performance, mx, or standing behind our mgmt anymore!

My sarcasm detector is deferred at the moment. Please tell me you're kidding...

SilverandSore 04-17-2012 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by zildjian_zach (Post 1170463)
Throw this sentiment around the C5 crew room and see how many friends you make...

Ironically it wouldn't make me friends but it wouldn't make me wrong either.

AxialFlow 04-17-2012 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Surprise (Post 1169936)
Sometimes though, just sometimes, the media can get things wrong. I don't know what's going to happen to those planes, but to the extent that Continental got them just as a 70 seat end around the large RJ scope, I could see them going away. While the new United JCBA could park all of the CRJ-700s, I dont think that's going to happen. Best case is the existing 700s will be grandfathered in, which would devalue the Q's purpose. Maybe the Q400s can still fill in on some special mission, but to my knowledge they're just not worth it compared to CRJs.

But again, my knowledge is limited. Anything could happen. My point is just that it is not a foregone conclusion that those planes will stay with UAX, despite what some Canadian article said.

Could end up like SWA and the 717. SWA knew that the 717 wasn't going to play a role in the fleet. But if they announced that from the get go, it would drive prices of 717s down since there'd be a glut of used airframes soon to hit the market. Wouldn't be doing themselves or Boeing any favors.

Bombardier would be shooting themselves in the foot if the market knew these airframes didn't have homes. Who'd want to buy a new Q400 if they could get a used one for a more attractive lease rate?

MunkyButtr 04-17-2012 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1170616)
Could end up like SWA and the 717. SWA knew that the 717 wasn't going to play a role in the fleet. But if they announced that from the get go, it would drive prices of 717s down since there'd be a glut of used airframes soon to hit the market. Wouldn't be doing themselves or Boeing any favors.

Bombardier would be shooting themselves in the foot if the market knew these airframes didn't have homes. Who'd want to buy a new Q400 if they could get a used one for a more attractive lease rate?

You're using way too much reason and logic with that statement. That would make way too much sense so its probably not true. Har har

newarkblows 04-17-2012 09:22 AM

Skywest said they don't want them. Too expensive to operate, a crj 900 is cheaper to buy, and they didn't see a lot of growth with props looking ahead. They think if scope is sold away at mainline that anything sub 80-95 seats will dissapear with oil over 100. I think the q is a good airplane and it makes sense for short flights but United might be dumping a lot of short flights and making people drive.

Saabs 04-17-2012 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by newarkblows (Post 1170661)
Skywest said they don't want them. Too expensive to operate, a crj 900 is cheaper to buy, and they didn't see a lot of growth with props looking ahead. They think if scope is sold away at mainline that anything sub 80-95 seats will dissapear with oil over 100. I think the q is a good airplane and it makes sense for short flights but United might be dumping a lot of short flights and making people drive.

How is it cheaper than a crj 900


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