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GoBlue 04-05-2012 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by DashGirl (Post 1164651)
Nope, United was the controlling entity post-merger.

United is United in name only. Jeff Smisek is the CEO and just about the entire management team is Continental. Ask any United employee who is running the show.

Tchinson 04-05-2012 08:32 PM

Comair????

Sioux115 04-06-2012 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by clearprop (Post 1164652)
Is the thought of Horizon getting these completely out of the question?

If you've spent anytime time around AAG you'd know they are the biggest tight a$$'es in the industry!!! 0 chance unless bombardier will trade our 10 new options for 10used airframes.

Bascuela 04-07-2012 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Mildred Pierce (Post 1164605)
What about all the SKW EMB 120 flying for UAL? That TP flying will continue for 4-5 more years.

The EMB's are on contract with UAL until 2015. After that they'll switch over to all pro-rate markets just like the "Delta" EMB's out of SLC. SkyWest manager of FltOps feels more "confident" about pro rate markets in California opposed to SLC operations. However many factors could change that. In the end MX cost will be the limiting factor of the EMB's.

As far as the Q's - Mesa. Last years RFP from UAL for the Q's suggests that Mesa submitted Dash 8 200 (or whatever model they had left) with those rates. I would imagine that even though UAL cut them off.... This is U f'ing Nited we're talking about. They're cheap a** bastards! My thoughts anyway.

kiteflyer 04-07-2012 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 1163999)
Okay, so PNCL's Q400's are out the door, with United taking over the payments. (See Pinnacle's BK Declaration) The question on every frosted-tip, sunglass wearing, ipod listening to, regional FO is where.

Here is my theory...

Skywest is a likely suitor, but it does take a long time to get a training program AND proving runs completed.

CommutAir doesn't have a chance. Their owner is extremely greedy and they are SUCH a small operation with only 200 or so pilots. You are talking about a 160% increase in operations in 6 months. CommutAir is out.

Mesa has a Dash 8 training program with pretty low 70-seat wages. They could seriously take over this flying with a long-term deal and leases on the airplanes.

Republic is a small possibility.

Pinnacle. There is a good chance that these airplanes don't go anywhere. The BK declaration said that United and Pinnacle were in agreement on a long-term Q400 deal, however, Pinnacle could not submit a competetive bid for the business. If Pinnacle does (and they will) shed a bunch of labor costs via bankruptcy I think you could see a bankrupt PNCL submit a bid to keep these aircraft.


HOW ABOUT UNITED FLYS THEM!!!!!!!!

(every pilot who wants to fly for a career should hope, pray and demand that this happen)

What 04-07-2012 09:28 AM

For the SCOPE gurus out there, now that Pinnacle has seemed termination of the UCAL Q400 flying, what happens next! My understanding is that UCAL is operating under one current certificate and are working towards a single contract! Can United redeploy the Q400s, are they still utilizing the CAL SCOPE, can they do that or do they need to follow the current United SCOPE. I know there are 2 separate contracts and pilot groups but the question is how will the new UNITED enter into a new feed contract, what SCOPE will they use. I have seen the media release that states another undisclosed United carrier will be taking over the aircraft.

Saabs 04-07-2012 09:37 AM

Who wants the one that just had the nose gear up on the runway? Bet it's cheaper....

usmc-sgt 04-07-2012 11:26 AM

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...r/d91bf25c.jpg

Note the extinguisher in the bottom right. Apparently PNCL didn't pay their crash fire rescue bill either.

B200 Hawk 04-07-2012 11:35 AM

That looks like a great center landing though all things considered.

Silver02ex 04-07-2012 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 1165597)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...r/d91bf25c.jpg

Note the extinguisher in the bottom right. Apparently PNCL didn't pay their crash fire rescue bill either.

Thanks for the laugh, I needed that.


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