My understanding is the ORD chair refuses to hold a meeting where a vote may be taken for him to get the boot. Against ALPA C & B, but the bent MEC refuses to do anything about it and the whole crooked feifdom is stalling. Clearly a representational body out of control, but considering what happened in Herndon during the TWA fiasco, it seems this type of self-serving conduct is systemic.

Since no one has grown a pair and banded together and contacted a labor attorney to persue DFR, it seems they'll have a green light until it's basically too late. Sad what's become of my old stomping grounds. :confused:

for once something very accurate from this guy.

The ORD LEC will not hold a meeting, because they will most likely be recalled. The ORD LEC is 51%+ majority for the DG, Gutz clan, which is our MEC. Our MEC blows, and is a management puppet.

Also keep in mind the ORD LEC rep actually emailed all the ORD pilots and called out the names of the pilots who wanted him recalled!

If ORD LEC is recalled, they could vote to vote out DG and bring in a new MEC. DG has not flown in years, gets paid 90hr CRJ Captain pay each month plus other perks. The list goes on/on. Including they recently just tried to pass that they could keep alcoholic drinks on the tabs of union paid meals.

Best case for everyone is have ORD LEC recalled, get new reps, vote out DG, and maybe actually have a union that cares about the pilots.

Keep your ears open the next few days about AA putting in a huge order for planes at EAGLE, 70+ seats, with no regard to AA scope. They will get the planes and let the court deal with it once on property.

Would the net effect of this be the capacity would essentially stay the same, but with fewer aircraft and pilots? Sorry for asking what might be a stupid question.

just rumors down the pipeline, will need to see actual news. I also talk it back, I thought I had posted online two weeks ago, that AA/USAIR merger news was coming late last week, but I guess I never did.

You whine about accuracy and then this ?

First of all, any order for aircraft would have to be approved by the court. Confirming an order prior to the court granting AMR's 1113 motion against the APA would be a bit presumptuous and quite obnoxious, don't you think ?

Specifically, AMR is right now trying to convince the bankruptcy court that they are bargaining in good faith, but unilaterally confirming orders in violation of the contracts still in place by ordering aircraft they don't have legal right to do doesn't bolster that concept of bargaining in good faith, so it would be surprising they would be that arrogant and stupid. I do acknowledge the high-fivers on EL and TA are foaming at the mouth at the possibility though. ;)

Lastly, orders like this take time and AMR presented Eagle ALPA with term sheet only weeks ago that limits pay scales to 76-seats, not the 88-seats that the high-fivers on EL and TA are claiming. If AMR was negotiating with manufactuers for E-190's or CRJ-1000's for Eagle, they'd have included an 88-seat pay scale they could get on that 1113, instead of vague conditional language they'd have to get further approval for later.

You're the only junior F/O at Eagle I know that is convinced she has everything figured out.

What makes you think those planes would go to Eage? If they're gonna start breaking all the rules, then they could just start an altar-ego like Go Jets. A lot of trashy rumors lately.

AMR will get larger RJ's. Some will likely go to Eagle, but others to........well, others.

Remember, regardless of the 1113 for Eagle pilots, they still have a major longevity problem and awarding many of those future E-175's and/or CRJ-900's to others not only provides whipsaw capability for AMR, it allows another to underbid or equal bid Eagle due to the likelyhood they won't have maxed out 15-eyear captains and 6th year F/O's, but much cheaper labor.

Wingtips is counting her chickens before they've hatched (a common error to those new to this industry).

For once something very accurate from this girl. These are simply rumors being thrown out on the "Eagle pilot" websites and some are getting themselves in a tizzy. This post is FAR more proper as opposed to instructing everyone to "keep their ears open for news this week" and then stating what Judge Lane will be doing.

Even I wouldn't come on this forum and attempt to tell anyone what Judge Lane will do implying confident certainty. Jeez........

Or AMR could award those to another regional that will fly them cheaper.