silver Saabs, did they have info about COLGAN
#31
What’s it doing now?
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From: 190CA
No sense of entitlement here, you still don't get! What you refer to in just dialing a frequency because you game it memorized is complacency, you can get and will likely get it correct 100% of the time. But I not willing to take that chance, to much is at risk. I don't fly an airplane with an FMS, we work in a field that doing something by memory becomes so easy but we also work in a field where we are dealing with many outside factors and a fatiguing schedules. We have different views and I think we should leave it at that!
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#33
Ditto on Saab asss.
#35
Gets Weekends Off
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It can be a little heavy in roll feel but not really for pitch as long as you don't fly it untrimmed. 250 to the marker can definitely be done and be stable by 500 on a visual. With the higher flap settings on both t/o and landing you can get into and out of anywhere. The cockpit is roomier than the Brasilia and the no fms thing really isn't really that big of deal. We fly it on short hops and once you know your routes then you don't have to pull out en-route charts or spend time setting the thing up. It has stiff main gear so you wont get a squeaker every time but that just makes it sweeter when you do. The autopilot is fantastic, works good, lasts long time.
I really think its a great airplane to fly. The only real complaint is no APU so when its hot outside you will get a nice case of what we like to call Saab a**.
I really think its a great airplane to fly. The only real complaint is no APU so when its hot outside you will get a nice case of what we like to call Saab a**.
To let you know I vommited in my mouth when I said "your aircraft".
#36
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Hey Sandrich,
personal opi nion of course. Iflew Saab for a year and a half, and flew 1900 for a year. Saab is like flying an old F150 truck. Fun, but heavy on the controls, dirty, shaky and noisy airplane. 1900 flies well, much like other King Airs. I woulddefinately like having an autopilot, on those multiple leg days, but youll never be as proficient as you are right now flying the 1900. Have fun bro...
personal opi nion of course. Iflew Saab for a year and a half, and flew 1900 for a year. Saab is like flying an old F150 truck. Fun, but heavy on the controls, dirty, shaky and noisy airplane. 1900 flies well, much like other King Airs. I woulddefinately like having an autopilot, on those multiple leg days, but youll never be as proficient as you are right now flying the 1900. Have fun bro...
#37
Is that sickening? Did you vomit again? Tell me why
#38
What’s it doing now?
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From: 190CA
Man, I am just not making any friends this week...
To take a shot at defending myself (even though I'm sure it wont help) I was simply trying to let someone know the capabilities and my sense of the plane when they asked. I wasn't advocating being unstable or unsafe on approach, just trying to let people know that the airplane slows down really quick so you don't have to be quite as ahead of it on the descent as a jet. Or you can fix a situation where atc left you high and fast really easily. The no chart thing wasn't meant to be "don't ever look at your charts", it was simply a response to someone else complaining about no FMS. I was saying that /A is just fine on our routes because once you know them a little you have plenty of situational awareness without the big moving map display and the navigation is really easy and you don't have to spend a lot of time messing with the box.
I'm sure I wouldn't have stepped on as many toes having said this in person but once again the internet makes everything a grey area. Or maybe I am just a crummy writer.
ColganGuy and What,
The safety and comfort of my passengers is, and always will be my number one concern in aviation. Not my own enjoyment, pay, or mission completion. I do this job because I believe that I have something of value to add to the operation and safe, reliable air transportation is my goal. I'd be happy to have myself and MY wife in the back of your airplane. Please feel free to PM me if you like, Ill tell you who I am and we can talk more if you like.
Last edited by Tom a Hawk; 04-16-2012 at 06:26 AM.
#39
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Who would want to be friends with anyone on this forum? 
I really cant tell what this manhood measuring contest is even about anymore, but look up in FAR/AIM ar FAR-FC for the definition of a stabilized approach......oh wait, its not in there.
Thanks for the insight. Enjoying the 1900 for now, but if they put me in Saab class, I wont go kicking and screaming. It is what it is. Wont happen anytime soon, thats for sure.

I really cant tell what this manhood measuring contest is even about anymore, but look up in FAR/AIM ar FAR-FC for the definition of a stabilized approach......oh wait, its not in there.
Hey Sandrich,
personal opi nion of course. Iflew Saab for a year and a half, and flew 1900 for a year. Saab is like flying an old F150 truck. Fun, but heavy on the controls, dirty, shaky and noisy airplane. 1900 flies well, much like other King Airs. I woulddefinately like having an autopilot, on those multiple leg days, but youll never be as proficient as you are right now flying the 1900. Have fun bro...
personal opi nion of course. Iflew Saab for a year and a half, and flew 1900 for a year. Saab is like flying an old F150 truck. Fun, but heavy on the controls, dirty, shaky and noisy airplane. 1900 flies well, much like other King Airs. I woulddefinately like having an autopilot, on those multiple leg days, but youll never be as proficient as you are right now flying the 1900. Have fun bro...
Last edited by sandrich; 04-16-2012 at 06:35 AM.
#40
Your right I should have violated SOP's and landed without putting the props back. And your also right we flew it so cheap after the contract we won't be going out of business anymore. And your also right we purposely made the Saab loud, we had a quiet button just refused to press the damn thing.
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