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Old 05-27-2012 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
What ever the outcome is, Delta and the other regionals all ready know.. This has been planed from day 1... Im guessing will find out what the fall out is, and the winners the middle of July...
Right, because Delta wanted to merge all 3 Colgan, Mesaba, and Pinnacle. ? Make no mistake, had Pinnacle Inc been standalone, Pinnacle Corp would have dumped Colgan (liquidate) and had Mesaba without the Saabs. Pinnacle Inc would not have run out of cash, considering that only the 16 CRJ 900s were losing money while 126 CRJ-200s were on a money making contract.
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Old 05-28-2012 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Right, because Delta wanted to merge all 3 Colgan, Mesaba, and Pinnacle. ? Make no mistake, had Pinnacle Inc been standalone, Pinnacle Corp would have dumped Colgan (liquidate) and had Mesaba without the Saabs. Pinnacle Inc would not have run out of cash, considering that only the 16 CRJ 900s were losing money while 126 CRJ-200s were on a money making contract.
Riiiiiiight, that's why Delta is looking to park 50 seaters once the 717's come online. Make no mistake 9E and it's 50 seat flying model are done for....
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Old 05-28-2012 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Slats
Riiiiiiight, that's why Delta is looking to park 50 seaters once the 717's come online. Make no mistake 9E and it's 50 seat flying model are done for....
How is Delta going to get out of the 200 leases?
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Old 05-28-2012 | 05:12 AM
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Riiiiiiight, that's why Delta is looking to park 50 seaters once the 717's come online. Make no mistake 9E and it's 50 seat flying model are done for....
How is Delta going to get out of the 200 leases?
That's why DL management wants 70 new 76 seaters, they'll use that to break the leases on the 50 seaters. With Pinnacle now at the mercy of Mama Delta, it wouldn't surprise me if Pinnacle got 30-40 of those new 76 seaters in exchange for 3-4 50 seaters gone. What would Pinnacle do? Say no?
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Old 05-28-2012 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
That's why DL management wants 70 new 76 seaters, they'll use that to break the leases on the 50 seaters. With Pinnacle now at the mercy of Mama Delta, it wouldn't surprise me if Pinnacle got 30-40 of those new 76 seaters in exchange for 3-4 50 seaters gone. What would Pinnacle do? Say no?
Boom, Someone gets it. If you're still at 9E without a future class date somewhere else, GET OUT NOW. The place is doomed. I feel sorry for the 2003- present hires. Too invested to make a lateral move and have to wait for Majors to start hiring in big numbers...
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Old 05-28-2012 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
That's why DL management wants 70 new 76 seaters, they'll use that to break the leases on the 50 seaters. With Pinnacle now at the mercy of Mama Delta, it wouldn't surprise me if Pinnacle got 30-40 of those new 76 seaters in exchange for 3-4 50 seaters gone. What would Pinnacle do? Say no?
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Boom, Someone gets it. If you're still at 9E without a future class date somewhere else, GET OUT NOW. The place is doomed. I feel sorry for the 2003- present hires. Too invested to make a lateral move and have to wait for Majors to start hiring in big numbers...
You are contradicting yourself. First you say someone gets it because they predict Pinnacle might get 30-40 76 seaters in exchange for the same number of -200's (a good thing for Pinnacle) but then you ay Pinnacle is doomed??
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Old 05-28-2012 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by IBPilot:1199226
Originally Posted by magnus0322
That's why DL management wants 70 new 76 seaters, they'll use that to break the leases on the 50 seaters. With Pinnacle now at the mercy of Mama Delta, it wouldn't surprise me if Pinnacle got 30-40 of those new 76 seaters in exchange for 3-4 50 seaters gone PER 76 SEATER. What would Pinnacle do? Say no?
Originally Posted by Slats
Boom, Someone gets it. If you're still at 9E without a future class date somewhere else, GET OUT NOW. The place is doomed. I feel sorry for the 2003- present hires. Too invested to make a lateral move and have to wait for Majors to start hiring in big numbers...
You are contradicting yourself. First you say someone gets it because they predict Pinnacle might get 30-40 76 seaters in exchange for the same number of -200's (a good thing for Pinnacle) but then you ay Pinnacle is doomed??
I typed incorrectly. I meant Delta will give Pinnacle 1 76 seater for 3-4 50 seaters parked. Meaning with 30 76 seaters they can park Pinnacles entire 200 fleet
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Old 05-28-2012 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
You are contradicting yourself. First you say someone gets it because they predict Pinnacle might get 30-40 76 seaters in exchange for the same number of -200's (a good thing for Pinnacle) but then you ay Pinnacle is doomed??
Read carefully.... When Delta picks up the 717's or more 76 seaters they will park 3/4 of Piinnacle's fleet. A 717 can fly the load of 2+ CRJs and Delta wants to get away from 50 seats. Meaning most of Pinnacles fleet will be gone, out of a pilot list of 3100 pilots there will be roughly 1200-1500 pilots left on property. How can they do this? Easy, it's Delta's discretion with DIP financing. All that will be left 15yrs or more guys and gals... Sounds a bit like Comair to me.
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Old 05-28-2012 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
I typed incorrectly. I meant Delta will give Pinnacle 1 76 seater for 3-4 50 seaters parked. Meaning with 30 76 seaters they can park Pinnacles entire 200 fleet
I knew what you ment... Some guys just can't see the writing on the wall, spelled correctly or not.
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Old 05-28-2012 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
That's why DL management wants 70 new 76 seaters, they'll use that to break the leases on the 50 seaters. With Pinnacle now at the mercy of Mama Delta, it wouldn't surprise me if Pinnacle got 30-40 of those new 76 seaters in exchange for 3-4 50 seaters gone. What would Pinnacle do? Say no?
If Deta does this deal BBD will want the newest possible 200s back to have somewhat of a chance to resell them ( 9E's) . That is why Delta wants complete control over 9E, 9E will not argue with what Delta tells them will happen. We have already seen this.
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