Go to sticker junkie.

Since when has the MEC been flying the line? :p

Do you expect the ERJ side to agree to anything that isn't at least as good as they have now? If getting something better means flying going somewhere else, so be it. I personably don't want to sell myself out.

Amazing 401k? It's not amazing by any stretch of the imagination!

The ERJ side has had industry leading wages and it's actually growing in number of aircraft.

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Thanks for the info.

Had the same exact thought as I typed that, but I figured anyone that has any contact with Union folk know how much they've been trying to manage expectations since...well since just after Contract 2007.

Expressjet was headed for bankruptcy, you were expensive and continental pulled a lot of flying, gee I wonder...your industry leading contract must have had nothing what so ever to do with that.
Expressjet got bought, yet they still have the desire to want to sink the company that bailed them out of having to take concessions. No one gets a better contract in BK and now y'all are not headed for it, that is unless you want to sink ASA too. And for what? A few years of another "industry leading" contract only to be praying you dont go BK when mainline drops you years down the road?
Your a contractor, in fact a sub contractor, and yet you demand to be paid as if there is no one else that mainline can turn to for a regional feed. GoJets is the classic example, or mesa, or whoever.
Growth = movement and better schedules, and thats exactly what will not happen when you get to be the most expensive. Im not saying we go the route of being broke and flying like GoJets, but we are far from that...lets get a better contract, but not one that blows everything everyone else has away. In a perfect world we would be getting paid the same as mainline and have 100% job security, blah blah blah. Get over it, your at a regional, if your a lifer...sorry, but most of us want to move on and not sit as FOs for a decade either. Getting paid over 100k a year (left seat)...and thats only after 10 years isn't bad. But its never enough...

Jr bases as of the last bid are EWR and CLE, the last 2 classes here in the school house both got split between the 2. For FO's ORD appears to be the most senior since only 2 people in the last 4 classes got awarded it.

Of course with only 4 bases things could change quickly, just my take on things

You are wrong. I agree with many of your points but you are wrong. The majority of the guys on the ERJ side bust ass every day, and want to see the company succeed. Most are happy with management as well. Yes, perhaps our on-time is consistantly 10% lower than the CRJ side, but we fly out of Newark as well.

We are all in this together, and listening to rumors from either side doesn't help. All of us want the company to succeed and a fair contract isn't a bad thing. I don't expect the moon and I think most of the ERJ guys realize the whole subcontractor thing and would agree with you.

Industry leading wages? I hate to break it to you, but 9L, XJ, end 9E payrates actually surpass yours at maturity. Where does that get us, CH11. If you want a ticket to the dance, by all means join us.

Man what u said is so wrong. Please don't blame the pilots wages on our bankruptcy. It was inept management, NOT the pilots contract.