"Looming" pilot shortage? Oh well,foreign flight students are welcome to spend $$ on aviation here .

 

I don't think anyone sold how great Pinnacle (actually Colgan) was, but some of us thought it was a reasonable/decent place following the union and the contract.

Alas, decent work rules and decent pay crippled the mighty bottom feeder.

So the lesson learned: if one works for a company that pays average wages and has average QOL, the company will be short lived.

 

Looks like "Jet University" reborn to me. Same crook runnining the place?

 

Find me a post where I did that. Are you upset because you spent some alone time with Jerry S up in State College and he didn't love you enough?

 

Yeah, I think the boy is confused. I've never been someone who has been called a "company sympathiser." At most I have been someone who chose to let my elected MEC do their work before developing my final opinion.

Wingtips is an angry 20-something year old who already thinks he has it all figured out, read his posts. I can understand some of his anger because of the impending furloughs at Eagle, but the boy is just misguided with his anger. He loves to blame ALPA National, the EGL MEC, and any pilot who has considered to work for any airline that he has determined to be destructive to the industry.

I'll give him as pass because of the stress he is under. We both remember what is was like to be mid 20's and have it all figured out

 

That is because Asia has a huge English speaking pilot shortage. America does not. We have a huge surplus of qualified pilots. Simple supply and demand.

 

I find it funny that you'd say that, since any Chinese pilot would laugh at what the industry is like over here. It's kind of insulting to the Chinese that you'd try and make the comparison.

 

Not true. XJT has a relatively good contract by even todays standard, and that was achieved back in 2004. They are still kickin today.

What did Pinnacle in was combining all 3 carriers pilots into one list as quickly as they did. There was no need for that. Running the three carriers separately, at least for the time being, would have saved this company millions in training events, bypass pay, combination expenses, etc. In comparison, look at ASA and XJT. The Corp bought the company, but they have NOT merged the two groups together. And why should they so soon? They have so many things to take care of before an operation should be combined with one seniority list. That idiot Bloch allowed everyone to jump across without any fences (for the time being) also hurt Pinnacle. Lets just be honest and get to the meat of the matter: it is absolutely crazy to allow everyone from all 3 airlines to jump across all 3 airlines right away. I remember I protested this back in the day when 11-08 and 11-09 were coming out. I was told this was our "contractual right" to do so, and was never given any answer on the financial viability of that option. Oh well. I guess you can't fight facts with facts.

If I were running things, and the beneficial well being of Pinnacle pilots was my #1 interest, I would have never agreed to one list, nor binding arbitration. I'd rather take the potential chance of a future whipsaw then a guaranteed loss of a fleet cut, aka the Mesaba Saabs (which was known at the time) and the entire Colgan operation (which wasn't known at the time, but the writing was on the wall ever since the BUF crash).

 

After all the dust settles from all of the mergers including AA and USA they will all slightly shrink. Ticket prices will go back up because there will be less competition so the consumer will be forced to pay more. Oil will never go back down in price. There will be retirements at the legacy level which will be promptly filled with regional,charter and corporate pilots looking to make the jump. The regional world will shrink due to the demise of the 50 seater. The legacy partners will keep a fiscal piano wire around the necks of the regionals; everyone will have to do keep their costs down or face going out of business. There will never be a shortage at the AA, DAL, UNI/CAL, SWA level.The regionals will be small enough that it won't take that many pilots to keep the classes full. And fortunately there will be plenty of suckers like myself who will be standing in line to be a airline pilot. If your lucky enough to be one of the pilots who gets selected out of a pool of 20,000 applicants than you are lucky. It is going to be brutal competition. There are folks with multiple LOR's, check airmen experience, family members, friends of chief pilots; all competing for a couple hundred slots a year. I know there are expected to be more retirements in years to come and if that actually happens then great for those who are able to switch uniforms.

 

I can't believe nobody noticed this little gem.

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