that really sucks.
ASA has 7 year FO's though.. kind of close I guess, although there are 900 FO's below those guys.

 

I believe the previous (the one above you) poster is correct. The net number should be lowered for the total -900 Captain positions.

 

Read the award rather than speculate. The award says both. Here, I'll do it for you ....

In the event both Mesaba and Pinnacle pilots have less than 279 and 95 CRJ-900 captain positions, respectively, CRJ-900 captain positions shall be awarded on a ratio of 279 Mesaba pilots to 95 Pinnacle pilots until either Mesaba or Pinnacle reaches their minimum. Remaining vacant positions will be awarded in accordance with system seniority.

 

This doesn't say anything about 'pre-merger.' It makes reference to Mesaba and Pinnacle pilots. Arguably, with the single fenced operation, and the fact all Mesaba pilots are now Pinnacle pilots, I can see an argument made that the numbers should decrease together since we are all Pinnacle. Or, is the "we are all Pinnacle" mantra not count when fleets are getting parked?

 

You are delusional. I again suggest you read the award. Whenever Bloch makes mention of a specific airlines "fence" number, he doesn't use the term pre merger. The above applies to the fence number, hence no pre merger. The idea that "technically Mesaba is now Pinnacle pilots" have nothing to do with the Bloch award. Nice try though. Using your logic the phrase "Pinnacle must maintain 95 CRJ CA spots" would be for Mesaba and Pinnacle pilots since, as you said, "Mesaba pilots are Pinnacle pilots"

The Bloch award makes a clear distinction of who is a "Colgan," "Mesaba" or "Pinnacle," and has nothing to do with your above mentioned slap at unity amongst the group.

I'm sure Hunter will formulate a strong argument. Maybe you and him should team up and formulate your argument and try and strengthen it up for Bloch

 

I see. What you are saying makes sense now.

Slap at unity? There has been no unity from day 1 of the 3-way negotiations. Any hint of unity broke initially last April when Mesaba filed a dispute AFTER hearings were closed regarding the 9E DOH issue. THat didn't go well. Then the quotas came out and it reflected horrendous staffing numbers on the Pinnacle side from the old June 2010 staffing model, and then the 9E guys were downgraded so Mesaba and Colgan pilots could take left seats. That didn't bring any unity. And NOW that entire fleets are getting parked, it's every group for itself fighting to protect as many seats as they can for their own group. Face reality: there is no unity to be had ever since this three-way happened.

Ha! Good luck with that. Now that the livelihood of senior 9E pilots is affected, watch a 200% effort from the 9E side of things. Before, there wasn't really any clarification or fight when the junior side got screwed in unfair quota numbers and the Saab fence. I never heard a peep since the Aug 2011 update that the clarification is requsted from Bloch and he hasn't answered. That was also in regards to the Saab captain fence-off for Pinnacle pilots. How much you wanna bet, in cold cash, that THIS time, in regards to THIS issue with the CRJ-900 quotas, you WILL hear a clarification from Bloch?

 

I remember there was a way to block people on the old airlinkpilots.com
Is there something like that on here? The juice's antagonistic remarks are childish & annoying.
Thanks for the help

 

Your right in tired of shyguy and his whining.

 

Click "User CP" then "Edit Ignore list" and add "The Juice" to your list of scary people.

Ironic that someone whom you referred to as being an antagonist, just helped you.

Glad I could help.

 

Huh? You passed English class?