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MunkyButtr 05-08-2012 12:21 PM

Pinnacle Dispute Resolution Letter
 
What is it?

SmitteyB 05-08-2012 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by MunkyButtr (Post 1184355)
What is it?

It's the language that dictates how a dispute with the WAY the Bloch award is applied.

For instance- if someone thinks that the quota numbers shouldn't count during displacements then it would go to a dispute resolution process. If the merger committees couldn't agree on the solution, then it would go to Bloch and he would give his decision.

ShyGuy 05-08-2012 10:22 PM

LOL! So who is disputing what this time?

Kellwolf 05-09-2012 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1184674)
LOL! So who is disputing what this time?

I'm thinking exactly what Smittey said: quotas not counting during a displacement. With the quotas in place, you're going to have a lot of -200 and Q400 guys getting booted back to FO while there are junior -900 CAs still holding on.

ShyGuy 05-09-2012 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Kellwolf (Post 1185187)
I'm thinking exactly what Smittey said: quotas not counting during a displacement. With the quotas in place, you're going to have a lot of -200 and Q400 guys getting booted back to FO while there are junior -900 CAs still holding on.

Colgan wants to have cake and eat it too? If it applies to vacancies, it should apply to displacements. And isn't it written pretty clear? "No pilot may be awarded or displaced... unless so and so maintains a minimum of x positions."

pilot0987 05-09-2012 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by MunkyButtr (Post 1184355)
What is it?

IT's a Pinnacle Dispute Resolution Letter

JamesNoBrakes 05-09-2012 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by pilot0987 (Post 1185311)
IT's a Pinnacle Dispute Resolution Letter

Classic.

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Kellwolf 05-10-2012 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1185268)
Colgan wants to have cake and eat it too? If it applies to vacancies, it should apply to displacements. And isn't it written pretty clear? "No pilot may be awarded or displaced... unless so and so maintains a minimum of x positions."

Actually.....it's Pinnacle guys, too. I'm a 6 year CA, and if the furloughs go like they say, I could be looking at the right seat again while junior XJ guys hold onto their left seats. It's not just Colgan anymore. I've got 500+ CAs below me in seniority. Cool, huh. By those numbers, I'd be "safe." Ooops. Less than 270 -200 CAs below me....

Pinnacle guys could get double screwed in all this: 9E FOs that got "jumped" in the SLI by Colgan guys didn't get that upgrade they thought was coming in a few months. Now, some of the 9E CAs that have been CAs for 5+ years could lose their seats, too.

Basically, this is what SHOULD be fair: quotas based on what proper staffing levels should be on the -200, not what they were on July 1st, 2010 because Pinnacle likes to short staff everything. For that fact, it should be based on proper staffing levels on the -900 as well. Then it's an even playing field. I'd say the same thing about the Q400 and the Saab, but management has run us into the ground so much, it's become a moot point.

The Juice 05-10-2012 08:26 AM



Originally Posted by Kellwolf (Post 1185187)
I'm thinking exactly what Smittey said: quotas not counting during a displacement. With the quotas in place, you're going to have a lot of -200 and Q400 guys getting booted back to FO while there are junior -900 CAs still holding on.

Colgan wants to have cake and eat it too? If it applies to vacancies, it should apply to displacements. And isn't it written pretty clear? "No pilot may be awarded or displaced... unless so and so maintains a minimum of x positions."
Shy, it's Pinnacle pilots up for the screwing. Where do you think those PCL ATL 900 pilots are going to go? If you said CRJ 200, you are correct.

Those ATL 900 CAs can only displace Mesaba 900 CAs down to their minimum fence, which they are only a few over. They can't displace out MSA 900 CAs. Those 900 CAs will then have to go to the 200 and displace out junior MSA and PCL CAs

I'm sure you already knew this

MunkyButtr 05-11-2012 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1185576)
Shy, it's Pinnacle pilots up for the screwing. Where do you think those PCL ATL 900 pilots are going to go? If you said CRJ 200, you are correct.

Those ATL 900 CAs can only displace Mesaba 900 CAs down to their minimum fence, which they are only a few over. They can't displace out MSA 900 CAs. Those 900 CAs will then have to go to the 200 and displace out junior MSA and PCL CAs

I'm sure you already knew this

So the screwing of senior fo's will continue. This place is beyond salvageable.


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