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RJtrashPilot 05-12-2012 11:02 AM

This is going to sound worse than I mean it to, but I'm going to say it anyway. I personally know two young men of color also belonging to OBAP from my Comair days that barely had 1,000 hours. They came to Comair from WMU and were only at Comair for a few months then were picked up by Delta. I personally think that's crap. It's practically reverse discrimination in my book. Here we were slaving away trying to fight our way up and these guys basically got a free pass.

Maybe I can sue someone? Will Reverend Jackson or Sharpton come to my aid? (What exactly are they reverends of, anyway???)

So like someone else said, if you are affirmative-action eligible, you can pretty much write your own ticket. You're really in the money if you are female and affirmative-action eligible. If you're a white male then pick a number and wait on it to turn up in the raffle.

skylover 05-12-2012 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot (Post 1186884)
This is going to sound worse than I mean it to, but I'm going to say it anyway. I personally know two young men of color also belonging to OBAP from my Comair days that barely had 1,000 hours. They came to Comair from WMU and were only at Comair for a few months then were picked up by Delta. I personally think that's crap. It's practically reverse discrimination in my book. Here we were slaving away trying to fight our way up and these guys basically got a free pass.

Maybe I can sue someone? Will Reverend Jackson or Sharpton come to my aid? (What exactly are they reverends of, anyway???)

So like someone else said, if you are affirmative-action eligible, you can pretty much write your own ticket. You're really in the money if you are female and affirmative-action eligible. If you're a white male then pick a number and wait on it to turn up in the raffle.

I'm a white male, so I guess the odds won't be in my favor :(

RunnerMark 05-12-2012 11:38 AM

I recently had a 25 year old blonde female bump me off the jump seat of a Comair flight. Without my asking, she told me how she was on the A320 at Delta and had done her time at Comair (two years), and had the right to the jump seat. Wow, just wow. She's going to be a real pleasure to fly with.

coryk 05-12-2012 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by RunnerMark (Post 1186905)
I recently had a 25 year old blonde female bump me off the jump seat of a Comair flight. Without my asking, she told me how she was on the A320 at Delta and had done her time at Comair (two years), and had the right to the jump seat. Wow, just wow. She's going to be a real pleasure to fly with.

25?! The last time they hired was 2010 right? So she was 23 when she was hired at DAL? :confused:

RunnerMark 05-12-2012 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 1186906)
25?! The last time they hired was 2010 right? So we was 23 when she was hired at DAL? :confused:

Haha... I may have used the term "recently" a little liberally! Didn't realize how long ago it was, guess I've just been having too much fun :D I do remember it was in Detroit.

coryk 05-12-2012 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by RunnerMark (Post 1186910)
Haha... I may have used the term "recently" a little liberally! Didn't realize how long ago it was, guess I've just been having too much fun :D I do remember it was in Detroit.

LOL. No worries. :-)

yeah sure 05-12-2012 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Senior Skipper (Post 1186807)
You have the PIC time?


Yup, I do. Last time Delta had interviews my dad couldn't help me.

bernouli 05-12-2012 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1186852)
No, it won't. There's this thing called age discrimination...

All hiring is discriminatory if you dissect it enough. Rather, a balance between age groups to control the rate of mandatory retirements - to control the outflow valve. So yes, it will.

The only people discriminated against in our industry are white males. I'm betting many think twice when filling out the equal opportunity survey at the end of an employee application.

ZapBrannigan 05-12-2012 12:14 PM

I was hired at USAir in 1999 with no turbine PIC. In retrospect, accepting it was the worst decision I could have made. When I was furloughed several years later I was unqualified to apply at any of the few airlines still hiring and, as a result, ended up at the bottom of a regional.

Better to gain the minimum qualifications than to regret not having done so later. I ended up having almost 9000 TT and it taking almost 10 years after my first airline job before I got 1000 pic turbine.

HotMamaPilot 05-12-2012 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot (Post 1186884)
This is going to sound worse than I mean it to, but I'm going to say it anyway. I personally know two young men of color also belonging to OBAP from my Comair days that barely had 1,000 hours. They came to Comair from WMU and were only at Comair for a few months then were picked up by Delta. I personally think that's crap. It's practically reverse discrimination in my book. Here we were slaving away trying to fight our way up and these guys manually got a free pass.

Maybe I can sue someone? Will Reverend Jackson or Sharpton come to my aid? (What exactly are they reverends of, anyway???)

So like someone else said, if you are affirmative-action eligible, you can pretty much write your own ticket. You're really in the money if you are female and affirmative-action eligible. If you're a white male then pick a number and wait on it to turn up in the raffle.

HOPEFULLY in a couple of years, affirmative action will be illegal as it IS a racist, sexist, and unethical idea. As the mother of two white males, I object to it and think it is about the most unfair practice in our land. I know some will say that I may have benefited from it and I say: point made.


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