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satpak77 05-12-2012 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by skylover (Post 1186765)
Stupid question: could a regional FO technically move directly up to a mainline without becoming a regional Captain first? Or is it an "unwritten rule" that you have to make it to regional Captain before getting accepted by a mainline?

Thanks :)

yes. this happened all the time in the "hey day" of the 90's hiring. Many Eagle FO's applied to AA as "outside applicants" and were hired way ahead of internal Eagle flow-thrus on the flow thru hiring plan

coryk 05-12-2012 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by slammer1906 (Post 1186995)
Im guna help you see how foolish your comment is. What ur saying is, if a black, because you mention the civil rights marches, cant shoot a single eng ILS, hand flown to mins or balls up an abort on his/her checkride, they will still fly ur family around simply because their black?!

I thought we had come a long way, but maybe not.

I'm having a hard time understanding your point?

What I'm saying is, reverse discrimination is alive and well in this country. White males dominate airline cockpits, no doubt, but to allow someone in who is obviously less qualified than another simply because they are minority race and/or gender is ridiculous. The factors to getting an interview/hired should only be 1) who you know (sarcasm) 2) qualifications.

I wasn't try to be offensive, and if I came off as such, I apologize. :)

Boomer 05-12-2012 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 1186906)
25?! The last time they hired was 2010 right? So she was 23 when she was hired at DAL? :confused:

Comair last hired in 2008, and many of those were furloughed later that year and remain furloughed.

slammer1906 05-12-2012 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 1187018)
I'm having a hard time understanding your point?

What I'm saying is, reverse discrimination is alive and well in this country. White males dominate airline cockpits, no doubt, but to allow someone in who is obviously less qualified than another simply because they are minority race and/or gender is ridiculous. The factors to getting an interview/hired should only be 1) who you know (sarcasm) 2) qualifications.

I wasn't try to be offensive, and if I came off as such, I apologize. :)

You cant mention the marches and expect it to go over well. I wasnt there and have no dog in that fight. I grew up in Bama, and my parents marched. My grandparents lived it and told many of the stories and are alive today. My point is, those things happened and we ALL have to live with the affects today.
We cant argue hiring practices need to change if we dont understand how we got here in the first place. Affirmative Action started with an executive order Kennedy wrote in the 60's. Call your congress for change.

We all know that getting an interview is not about what u know, but who u know. When has that changed? We fly airplanes here. If u cant fly them, u have no business being on line no matter ur gender, creeds or color.

Cessnan1315efw 05-12-2012 05:53 PM

Yeah well if I ever lost my medical or things didn't work out as a pilot I would go right back to being an A&P I love wrenching and I really do miss it now. Being a mechanic at a part121 union shop is a very very laid back job. So in that aspect I'm not really worried about a backup. I'm really wondering how hard it would be to get on with a major without a 4 year degree. If it is a must than chances are I will most likely start up with Thomas Edison since I can get credits for my A&P cert.

USMCFLYR 05-12-2012 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by slammer1906 (Post 1186962)
5) Why do we have affirmative action? Because of mistakes the previous generation made. I, u, and our peers have nothing to do with that, but we cant undue it today. We have to live with it.

This was the attitude of generations past and it didn't stand then and it shouldn't be accepted now. Others said that times like Jim Crowe couldn't be changed because 'that was the way things had always been'.

USMCFLYR

USMCFLYR 05-12-2012 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 1187018)
reverse discrimination is alive and well in this country.

Reverse discrimination?
It is just plain old *vanilla* discrimination.
There has always been discrimination against every GROUP of some form.
It isn't just the 'flavorable' minority of the month.
Btw - when does a majority become a minority and start to enjoy the various kinds of protections? :confused:

USMCFLYR

Avroman 05-12-2012 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot (Post 1186884)
This is going to sound worse than I mean it to, but I'm going to say it anyway. I personally know two young men of color also belonging to OBAP from my Comair days that barely had 1,000 hours. They came to Comair from WMU and were only at Comair for a few months then were picked up by Delta. I personally think that's crap. It's practically reverse discrimination in my book. Here we were slaving away trying to fight our way up and these guys basically got a free pass.

Maybe I can sue someone? Will Reverend Jackson or Sharpton come to my aid? (What exactly are they reverends of, anyway???)

So like someone else said, if you are affirmative-action eligible, you can pretty much write your own ticket. You're really in the money if you are female and affirmative-action eligible. If you're a white male then pick a number and wait on it to turn up in the raffle.

There were several white females in that same group that got the same fast track through ASA... The biggest kick in the nads was the instructors for those students weren't even given the sniff of a chance of an interview.

80ktsClamp 05-12-2012 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by usmcflyr (Post 1187092)
this was the attitude of generations past and it didn't stand then and it shouldn't be accepted now. Others said that times like jim crowe couldn't be changed because 'that was the way things had always been'.

Usmcflyr

thank you!!!!

Vertisch 05-12-2012 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by Cessnan1315efw (Post 1187055)
Yeah well if I ever lost my medical or things didn't work out as a pilot I would go right back to being an A&P I love wrenching and I really do miss it now. Being a mechanic at a part121 union shop is a very very laid back job. So in that aspect I'm not really worried about a backup. I'm really wondering how hard it would be to get on with a major without a 4 year degree. If it is a must than chances are I will most likely start up with Thomas Edison since I can get credits for my A&P cert.

I would say it is nearly impossible to get on at a legacy major without a degree at the present time since all of them have it as a documented requirement.


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