Freedom was, initially. It took a crap contract acceptance to bring them back in to the Mesa Air Group.

Look, the bottom line is ever since deregulation, and with competition, the unions have slowly lost their leverage. Pricing, economy, and competition will always drive the contractual moves.

TSA wanted to fly the bigger RJs for a certain wage, and TSA ALPA told Hulas 'No.' That's fine, but without leverage, they called a bluff, and lost. GoJets was formed. At one point, GoJets was hiring while TSA was displacing and downgrading.

Lets extend that to a carrier you and I both know well. Pinnacle Inc was doing flying as an ALPA carrier. Management wanted a second option, a B scale, another platform to use against us, giving them leverage. So they went out and bought Colgan - a non-ALPA airline. Then they grew Colgan massively while displacing and downgrading Pinnacle pilots. In both cases, management was able to successfully circumvent ALPA and its effectiveness.

Today, in 2012, GoJets is no longer different than the average regional airline. Certainly, your chances of employment in the future will not be hindered.... not until a TSA pilot makes it to the hiring board of a legacy airline. Most major airline pilots and major HR departments don't even care about the regional airline squabbles.

 

How do you know? Gojets and Trans States are privately held and publish no reports on the company's financial condition. The only people who know this are Hulas and the accountants that work for him.

 

On the money. Everyone said the Mesa guys were wh**es, lowered the bar, and worse for caving to JO and taking a crap contract to get all the flying on one list, Gojet guys were scabs and worse for working at Gojet because Hulas carried out his threat to keep the flying seperate. It would be comical if it weren't so sad. The heydey of the regional airlines as good places to work are quickly coming to an end. Mainline airlines have the regionals where they want them and can plug them in and out based on thier costs. To play the game, you have to understand the game, and most pilots and unions are so far behind the power curve on this it is comical.

 

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Finally, at least two guys that understand the game being played.

All of those that like to make a sport out of bashing GoJet need to comprehend what they are saying. All the temper tantrums make you sound like whining kids.

 

To the original poster. If we could get back to the original question for at least one post. When I was furloughed from Mesa in 2010 I decided to stand on my moral high horse and not "lower the bar" or "be a scab" and go to Go Jet while lot's of my Mesa friends did. Since then I have had four jobs including taking contracts outside the US just to pay my bills. I am currently back to first year pay again and hoping this one lasts longer than my previous record of six months. My Go Jet friends on the other hand have held a line since the second or third month they were hired and have enjoyed good job security and a steady paycheck. Oh and they are all captains now. Something I have still yet to achieve. Take it for what it's worth, your mileage may vary blah blah blah. I can't help but feel I would have been better off had I joined them.

 

Just out of curiosity what kind of flight benefits do you get over at g7?

 

I dunno, but they definitely don't involve jumpseats.

 

It depends on which partner you fly for.

ORD pilots have UAL benefits (yourself, spouse, parents, children, and an additional friend).

STL can use either UAL or delta.

RDU only flies for delta, so that is their only option.

I Jumpsat on Saturday and Sunday....so there ya go.

 

At OO you get Delta, United Airways and Alaska.

 

It wasn't a survey. He just asked what the flight benefits were at G7...