Timbo

As I said way back on page one of this sad thread, what is happening today with the RJ's providers is nothing new, this Churn has been going on for a very long time.

When are we going to learn to get togther, stop with the circular firing squad, and point the guns outward, at the politicians and CEO's who love 'churning' us?

SayAgain

Very sorry guys/gals. Good luck with future endeavors.

galaxy flyer

Timbo

It has ever been thus. The UAL-Capitol and DL-Chicago & Southern merger were endlessly debated and hated. That generation went to their graves believing they had been unfairly screwed. And, thinking of BN, there was PanAm's sale of Panagra to argue about.

Is there a "fairly" screwed?

GF

DryMotorBoatin

A national seniority list would be a good place to start imho

mach80guy

Bingo ! Someone that actually knows what he or she is talking about. 89 days walking in circles and costing mother DL millions was the beginning of it all. It showed that we (Comair pilots) won, had control, and power through solidarity and determinition.

crewdawg

Yup, you showed them...

moontimes

I guess striking in 2001 for 89 days to bring industry leading pay and work rules to the regional level doesn't demand your respect, lolwut. I would have to disagree, though. "Industry average" was certainly raised by the 2001 contract and this group deserves respect for the turmoil they went through to do so. Saying that "every pilot left there has made a bad career decision" is a very arrogant statement from someone who has been FORTUNATE enough to not find himself in the same situation...yet. My point is...bad decision, no; bad fortune, yes. You assume that the people left there have had a chance to advance their career. A place where 10 year guys had little opportunity to upgrade and hold the left seat for more than a year. With so little PIC, chose not to make a lateral move to a different regional and hope for better days at Comair. Perhaps you should thank these guys for raising the bar for all regionals and bid them good luck rather than telling them they are not respected by their peers the day after they find out they are loosing their jobs.

Iowa Farm Boy

To all my my Comair friends- sorry it finally came to this, and I know you will all land on your feet and hit the ground running.

Back in 1993 the FAR 135 outfit I was working for went under. You couldn't buy flying jobs that year, and I was devastated. I had too little ME PIC to compete for the few jobs available. I did something else to keep food on the table and ended up getting a better flying job that I stayed at for six years. My point is that this may very well be an opportunity, but it's up to you to find it.

I'd also like to thank you for raising the bar on 2001. I was at Eagle and gladly paid the strike assessment although I was a starving SF3 FO with a family. I still remember the high fives at all the regionals when you got your contract with big raises and a pension. I too agree that THAT is why you are where you are today. You guys raised the bar higher than any of the majors EVER wanted it to go.

To those finding schadenfreude in this- that says far more about you than it does about the good people at Comair.

Good luck, blue skies, and tailwinds.

norskman2

Were you guys even around in 2001? Since the whole regional outsourcing debacle began thirty years ago, only one pilot group at a major regional had the cojones to stand up to mainline management and go on strike for an industry-leading contract.

Were there problems with CMR MEC and the treatment of DAL furloughees? Yes.

But for putting their careers on the line and sacrificing their paychecks and putting their families through an 89-day strike, Comair pilots deserve the respect of every regional pilot.

Sadly, it was ultimately winning the battle in a losing war. As others have said, DAL management had it in for Comair since the day the strike ended. And it's come to this sad end.

Good luck to all Comair-ers past and present. In an industry that demands huge sacrifices from every regional pilot, you guys and gals paid more than your share.

Thanks, and Godspeed.

lolwut

Of course striking is commendable, but that was 11 years ago. 11 years that these pilots have had to find a new job where they're not flying someone elses' jobs. Sure, the hiring market hasn't been great for a lot of them, but anyone with what it takes to move on in the world has had the opportunity to do so in that time.

Saying that only they have the cajones to stand up to management? There we go again. Comair pilots aren't these amazing regional pilots... they were just given an opportunity that most of us would love to have. How many other regionals since then have been given the ability to strike? Not many. Pilots industry wide have the cajones and resolve to do what the Comair pilots did, and they do it in whatever way they can. ASA pilots come to mind, they sure did stick it to management pretty good and they didn't even have governmental permission to do so... they put themselves on the line just as much or more than the Comair pilots did.

If Comair pilots really had cajones, why are they still showing up to work in light of this news? How bout a good ol' fashioned sick out or something? If that happened, I'd change my tune.