Exceptions to H.R. 5900
08-11-2012 | 06:48 PM
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08-11-2012 | 07:01 PM
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Very well stated.
The CA and FO both had significant career shortcuts, with the CA having been involved in Gulfstream.
Pinnacle 3701, the Pinnacle MKE accident (no one was hurt, but over a million dollars of damage done to the plane), Comair 5191, and this Colgan accident all involved Gulfstreamers.
The CA and FO both had significant career shortcuts, with the CA having been involved in Gulfstream.
Pinnacle 3701, the Pinnacle MKE accident (no one was hurt, but over a million dollars of damage done to the plane), Comair 5191, and this Colgan accident all involved Gulfstreamers.
08-11-2012 | 07:10 PM
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I guess its why you fly planes.
08-11-2012 | 07:12 PM
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The habits of taking shortcuts, poor knowledge base, poor skills in general develop early and don't go away unless one is in a very competitive, demanding environment.
The AF used to have Red Flag, theory was that most combat losses occurred in the first ten missions, so let's give them that experience BEFORE combat. Losses, about 1-3 per Red Flag, were considered acceptable because, "we'd have lost them anyway in combat". Gradually, politics took some of the losses seriously and made things safer, if less testing. GA can do the same thing. I lost three friends flying checks, freight still weeds out a few each year.
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The habits of taking shortcuts, poor knowledge base, poor skills in general develop early and don't go away unless one is in a very competitive, demanding environment.
The AF used to have Red Flag, theory was that most combat losses occurred in the first ten missions, so let's give them that experience BEFORE combat. Losses, about 1-3 per Red Flag, were considered acceptable because, "we'd have lost them anyway in combat". Gradually, politics took some of the losses seriously and made things safer, if less testing. GA can do the same thing. I lost three friends flying checks, freight still weeds out a few each year.
GF
08-11-2012 | 08:05 PM
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Alternatively, regionals could come up with some special part 91 operation (for a profit, of course) and hire 500 hour pilots for $11 an hour because, after all, there would be no other options for said pilot...
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08-11-2012 | 09:19 PM
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I knew we'd come up with a solution! Oooh!, it could be an "Airline Training Academy", they could buy out the flight instruction business, give the instructors "guaranteed interviews" when they get 1500 and are hiring (which doesn't guarantee a job), it's the perfect $11/hr job, plus, you get to say "I'm a pilot for (insert airline here)". No guarantees for students, but they'd still sign up.
08-11-2012 | 10:20 PM
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All the captains in those accidents weren't from gulfstream- the FO on the Comair accident was, not the captain. Both on Pinnacle 3701, the FO on the MKE, FO on Comair, and CA on Colgan.
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