Exceptions to H.R. 5900
08-12-2012 | 07:59 AM
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08-12-2012 | 09:51 AM
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There is a correlation... you never had to fly with them as your FO! (not all were that way, but too many...)
All the captains in those accidents weren't from gulfstream- the FO on the Comair accident was, not the captain. Both on Pinnacle 3701, the FO on the MKE, FO on Comair, and CA on Colgan.
All the captains in those accidents weren't from gulfstream- the FO on the Comair accident was, not the captain. Both on Pinnacle 3701, the FO on the MKE, FO on Comair, and CA on Colgan.
your saying when comparing the three major RJ airline crashes within a few years, and all three captains are from gulfstream, and its not a link?
08-12-2012 | 10:55 AM
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Gulfstream enables pilots who wouldn't be able to otherwise cut it to buy their way into an airline job. Getting to 1500TT and successfully interviewing is tough and a lot of people can't do it.
It isn't anything to do with Gulfstream's training itself, its that it (and other places like it) allow those on the lower end of the scale to slip through the cracks and become qualified enough to get into an airliner. Not to say there aren't some exceptional pilots that came through Gulfstream, but it also enables those without the natural skill/ability/drive/etc to become a successful airline pilot the chance at being one anyways.
It isn't anything to do with Gulfstream's training itself, its that it (and other places like it) allow those on the lower end of the scale to slip through the cracks and become qualified enough to get into an airliner. Not to say there aren't some exceptional pilots that came through Gulfstream, but it also enables those without the natural skill/ability/drive/etc to become a successful airline pilot the chance at being one anyways.
08-12-2012 | 11:27 AM
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Gulfstream enables pilots who wouldn't be able to otherwise cut it to buy their way into an airline job. Getting to 1500TT and successfully interviewing is tough and a lot of people can't do it.
It isn't anything to do with Gulfstream's training itself, its that it (and other places like it) allow those on the lower end of the scale to slip through the cracks and become qualified enough to get into an airliner. Not to say there aren't some exceptional pilots that came through Gulfstream, but it also enables those without the natural skill/ability/drive/etc to become a successful airline pilot the chance at being one anyways.
It isn't anything to do with Gulfstream's training itself, its that it (and other places like it) allow those on the lower end of the scale to slip through the cracks and become qualified enough to get into an airliner. Not to say there aren't some exceptional pilots that came through Gulfstream, but it also enables those without the natural skill/ability/drive/etc to become a successful airline pilot the chance at being one anyways.
08-12-2012 | 12:10 PM
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Hiring? Yes. Sending to the line? No. I think Piedmont was alot like TSA. The training department had no problem washing people out who couldn't hack it at TSA.
08-12-2012 | 12:56 PM
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And Gulfstream was hardly the only low-time option. There are tons more CRJ course operators that allow low time pilots to be hired.
Besides, at one point in 2004-2007, some airlines like TSA and Piedmont were basically hiring at Commercial/Inst/ME ratings and 250 hours, with no RJ course.
08-12-2012 | 04:01 PM
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Gulfstream enables pilots who wouldn't be able to otherwise cut it to buy their way into an airline job. Getting to 1500TT and successfully interviewing is tough and a lot of people can't do it.
It isn't anything to do with Gulfstream's training itself, its that it (and other places like it) allow those on the lower end of the scale to slip through the cracks and become qualified enough to get into an airliner. Not to say there aren't some exceptional pilots that came through Gulfstream, but it also enables those without the natural skill/ability/drive/etc to become a successful airline pilot the chance at being one anyways.
It isn't anything to do with Gulfstream's training itself, its that it (and other places like it) allow those on the lower end of the scale to slip through the cracks and become qualified enough to get into an airliner. Not to say there aren't some exceptional pilots that came through Gulfstream, but it also enables those without the natural skill/ability/drive/etc to become a successful airline pilot the chance at being one anyways.
shyguy- you missed the point. This post was what I was getting at.
08-12-2012 | 06:20 PM
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08-12-2012 | 06:32 PM
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Both scenarios are plausible.
08-12-2012 | 06:36 PM
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