Does Anyone Else Get This??
08-20-2012 | 06:00 AM
#41
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not sure where you work, but I doubt you make less than the foot court employees. They all get raped by HMS corp, working $8/hr, part time. Its like $200 week to work 30 hours. You have no idea what bad feels like, as you sit there 8 hours a day, getting paid at least $2000/month playing with your IPAD or flying.
I think we are underpaid and maybe you work for some awful outfit but I just get bent when guys say they make less than the guy at McDonalds.
I think we are underpaid and maybe you work for some awful outfit but I just get bent when guys say they make less than the guy at McDonalds.
08-20-2012 | 06:09 AM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
It still doesn't mean that people entering the profession should be expecting all of the things on the list that one is suppose to be jealous of the McD's worker if they planned on being a pilot - especially an airline pilot.
That seems like pure poor planning and unrealisitc expectations of the career field.
Nope - the McD's worker doesn't have large school loans to pay off (at least for training in fast food prep). Does that make him smarter than they guy who laid down so much cash and investment in time for a job that has well known drawbacks?
USMCFLYR
08-20-2012 | 06:39 AM
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Everyone thinks that they deserve more and in many cases they are correct.
It still doesn't mean that people entering the profession should be expecting all of the things on the list that one is suppose to be jealous of the McD's worker if they planned on being a pilot - especially an airline pilot.
That seems like pure poor planning and unrealisitc expectations of the career field.
USMCFLYR
It still doesn't mean that people entering the profession should be expecting all of the things on the list that one is suppose to be jealous of the McD's worker if they planned on being a pilot - especially an airline pilot.
That seems like pure poor planning and unrealisitc expectations of the career field.
USMCFLYR
08-20-2012 | 06:46 AM
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Lots of young 20 somethings sitting in the right seat of RJ's making over $40,000 with no degree required to play. If you are making less than the food court guy then you are doing something wrong and if you want to be home every night like him then you should find a different career.
08-20-2012 | 06:53 AM
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That's for sure... Part of the reason I changed careers to aviation was because I didn't like being home every night, doing the same thing everyday. I do understand that some people like that kind of life, but I do NOT understand those that want that kind of life and work in aviation (while *****ing about it).
08-20-2012 | 07:05 AM
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It depends on how you look at it. According to your logic very few legacy jobs are "earned" as you call it. Often it's being in the right place at the right time. Did my friend who got hired at SWA because he went through FFDO training with their chief pilot "earn" his job? Do all of the pilots with the right connections "earn" their job? It's often who you know or being lucky and in the right place at the right time. A school mate of mine was neighbors with M.B. who was the HR gal at NWA in charge of pilot hiring. He got on very young with no PIC, did he "earn" it? If you are more than qualified and get on I'd say you "earned" it. How many 300 hour FO's did you fly with back in 2007 who "earned" their job? I believe that your "earned" analogy is a little out of whack. I don't think a single flow up that I know feels any guilt over it as everyone who flowed was well beyond qualified and deserving of the job.
So... in so many words, you didn't earn it. No wonder your outlook is so positive! You're just lucky to be there.
08-20-2012 | 07:16 AM
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First of all, I am comfortable where I am with current compensation. You never heard ME complain about my salary or MY QOL. I never said that the younger FO's EXPECTED those 'things' I listed. I simply stated that since they do without those little luxuries you would THINK that this job might be worth a little more than THEY are compensated for. THEY BECOME THE CAPTAIN in the case of an extreme emergency, remember that.
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08-20-2012 | 07:28 AM
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How can someone knowingly take out a substantial student loan, finish training, instruct, get hired by a regional and THEN complain about how bad it is and how others (McDonalds) workers don't have loans or stresses like they do?
Did anyone put a gun to your head, forcing you into this career and the loans as well? Probably not.
Is this career rough at times? Sometimes crap? Of course it is...but let's not wax poetic about the simple joys and freedoms of airport McDonalds workers, all the while with the "poor me and my career sacrifices."
Everyone goes through tough years in the airlines, we all signed on the dotted line for this career and we ALL can choose to leave for greener pastures at any time...I hear McDonalds in Terminal C is hiring.
Did anyone put a gun to your head, forcing you into this career and the loans as well? Probably not.
Is this career rough at times? Sometimes crap? Of course it is...but let's not wax poetic about the simple joys and freedoms of airport McDonalds workers, all the while with the "poor me and my career sacrifices."
Everyone goes through tough years in the airlines, we all signed on the dotted line for this career and we ALL can choose to leave for greener pastures at any time...I hear McDonalds in Terminal C is hiring.
