Its Official...XJT CrJ Base In DFW For AA
 

From an official source.

• The four-year CPA is for 11 CRJ200 aircraft flying under the American Airlines code beginning January 2013.
• All 11 aircraft will shift out of our Delta Connection program beginning in November 2012 to start transitioning to the American operating and paint specs.
• ExpressJet will begin operating five aircraft under the American code in January and six more in February 2013.
• ExpressJet’s American schedule will be concentrated out of Dallas/Ft. Worth (DFW), where we plan to open a crew base and a small Line Maintenance operation to support the service

Hope it's true! That's gonna go ultra senior

"These 11 CRJ200s will be ExpressJet aircraft flying under the American Airlines code, with the American Eagle name."

Crazy. Guess AMR owns the name and is changing how the business model works.

How senior, 5yr?

Is there any odds of a new hire class being started to fill the new dfw base?

No, this is not growth. It's just a transferring of planes. Hiring for attrition only

Plus, the DFW base will go very senior

The fact sheet on the company website said that this announcement itself wouldn't lead to more hiring since this is just a shift of aircraft that were being retired from the Delta operation.

Sorry to hear this. I'm sorry for the hard working pilots at Eagle who are seeing their flying erroded.

But how does this effect the total picture with some of the 200s going to new flying with the larger RJs coming online as well soon?

SkyWest, Inc +34(DL) -66(DL) +23(AA) = -9

Assuming everything is split close to even, ExpressJet is gaining 0 aircraft; losing 5+ by 2015.

Yes, the joy of possibly benefitting from another's loss is still alive and well in the airline pilot profession. I understand you may say you didn't mean it like that, but isn't it interesting that's the first reaction ? :(

A lot of the senior captains from DFW are on the 700. It remains to be seen what is more important to them: living in base or flying the mighty 7/900.

Why are majors still signing new 50 seat contracts??

Um... Its AA, they are a little behind the times if you havent noticed. Sorry about the LAX base guys but good news youll be recalling!

I know what you're saying, but that is business and life. I left Comair and am now flying for ExpressJet. Am I benefiting from my own loss?

I don't mean to sound harsh, but seriously, that's how contractors work.

If one paving company loses a city contract to another paving company, so be it. If one taxi company loses an airline crew contract to another taxi company, so be it.

Sucks for 1 side and not for another.

No, it's a strategic move. They need to begin the process of bringing other camels noses thru the tent flap, but they also want to use it as just enough of a message to produce a result. See, if AMR announced another carrier flying perhaps 75 E-175's out of ORD and DFW, it would create too much anger and would jeopardize a contract vote instead of improve its chances. No turning back on that either, once announced.

This move is just enough to both start a process they're going to anyway and just enough of a love tap to send the message they want. Once they get the agreement with the pilots, then they are free to act with impunity.

Horse before cart.

Because "Boyd's" a idiot and does'nt know what he is talking about...

The downside is that once this model is in place, everyone ends up being the side that "sucks". In the not to distant future, that reality will be back around to tap you on the shoulder and you'll have decide how cheap you're willing to work for or watch your flying shifted elsewhere.

You're on top this go around, so enjoy it, but within 4 years someone else will be repeating your words back to you on this forum.

YAY guys, here we go with some more animosity between regional pilot groups..!

Unfortunately, this is the future. You will all be pitted against each other having to defend your flying periodically FROM each other as outsourced contractors. Difficult how to see that not getting emotional.

Pfff, animosity? HIGH FIVES ALL AROUND

I understand, my friend. How do you think my employer and all of the pilots felt when L-UAL said BYEEEE and gave all our flying, which we flew for a couple decades, to mostly gojets and some others?

It's good to be grounded regarding the reality of the future. Sounds like you are. Hopefully more will begin to understand that afte living like that for awhile, the E-175 (or equivalent) isn't really that shiny after all.

Isn't it about time we all seriously consider a national senority list? Or a national regional specific union.. If this latest round of turmoil doesn't make the case, what's it going to take?

It's going to take SOOOO much more than we (the pilots) are capable of.. Money talks louder than we do, my man..

As an XJT guy, I just can't get too excited about gaining on someone elses loss. I can't speak for everyone but I believe most of us feel the same way.

BTW: You don't want to see some of the comments on the company website. Way too many "Hurray", "Yeah" and "Great job getting this flying" comments, mostly from FAs and various ground personnel.

That's how the industry functions, haven't you realized this yet? The regionals didn't start operating yesterday.

Why anyone holds any kind of resentment towards any other group of pilots is beyond me. It's not like the pilots went in and took your flying. We are all just chess pieces in this big game being moved around by management without any control over our next move.

If anything you could be resentful to the management group of the other company, but why anyone would feel resentment to other pilots is beyond me. Everyone is here to work and to make money, which in itself is laughable because nobody is making any money. The cake goes around the room. One time you get it, the next time it's someone else and you're left with an empty plate. That is why everyone who has their head on straight should be trying to get out of the regionals, or get out of this sh**ty industry all together.

Actually no, the regionals didn't always function that way. If you've been in it 10 years, yes, but 25 years.......no. Yes, you are just chess pieces (pawns actually) and no good chess player concerns themselves too much with the interests of a pawn.

Those are the same people tripping over themselves to praise management for Acey Day. Save for the one douche ATL FO who says the ERJ guys didn't get the flying because we didn't "get on board" (paraphrasing).

That would require effort. At Eagle for instance, the pilots have become so meek and complacent, they won't even defend themselves against an obviously corrupt union leadership structure and wander around wondering why they are being screwed and in the position they are in.

Nice idea in theory, but the above example demonstrates it's hopeless in reality.

Because the 50 seater does still have a place in the market. It just didn't play as big of a role now. Plus, AE will be losing EMB135/145 aircraft to retirement and some of that lift will need to be replaced.

Boyd's right, the 50 seater is on last leg but this gets AA the feed ASAP vs waiting a while to get larger RJs and they're probably getting the -200's at a steal since DAL is canning them. Like others have said, this is just the start of AA jumping in the RJ game 5-10 years behind everyone else since they're just now hitting bankruptcy

Sucks for the eagle and AA guys cause this has played out at all the other carriers already...

Yep. As the days go on it seems more and more like a cult rather than a company.

Wow, just wow. You hope pilots get put on the street... was there a pizza party in the crew room as well?

SO FAR, this is actually ATR replacement flying. The EMB 140s in LAX are going to MIA and DFW. This is to cover lift lost by the ATR retirement. MIA I know needs planes bad right now, and that is still with ATRs here.

Let me guess, when you watch baseball and you see someone from your team hit a home run, you don't cheer, you feel bad for the pitcher whose stats just took a hit.

Dear Eagle, welcome to the regional battle that has ensued for many years. Up until now, you have been relatively immune. But the reality is regional airlines do not own any flying. Mainline partners do. And they bid it out to their contractors

Do I feel for the Eagle employees? Yes. I have been in their shoes. I've been furloughed, recalled, then had my airline disappear. Do I feel ill will for the other pilots that got my flying? No of course not

I'm taking this out of context, and not Eagle related, but you're right, Cessna. If the pitcher is on my fantasy team, I do feel bad for them. Unfortunately, my pitching was bad enough this year that I felt the need to thread-jack. Sorry. :D

Well apparently mainline doesn't own their flying anymore either because the APA fought hard as hell to keep it. AMR was able to get the judge to abrogate their contract and their scope. APA didn't sell it!

And your baseball analogy is flawed. I liken this cheering more to when you watch a football game and someone on you team take a career ending injury. There will be those who share their deepest sympathies and those who cheered for the great "hit".

to the last 3 posts, esp the first one. Dont think this isnt immune to come back around, we might get spun off with our ch11 lower costs, and be bidding on your flying. The goal is stop the this cycle and try and level the playing field both on pay and longevity to prevent it from being so easy by management. Your oh well it will happen mentality is how it continues.

You mean the pitcher who makes millions and has no problems or worries about providing for his family? The pitcher that works 40 days a year? Terrible analogy. He plays a game. You're getting excited about flying which isn't even growth flying, but simply the result of under bidding and the race to the bottom. I am not blaming skywest pilots by any means, but to publicy cheer gaining another airlines flying is embarrassing. If your new flying was AA growth flying then celebrate. Your new flying is resulting in base closure and job loss. That is nothing to celebrate or get excited about.