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Adding 44 717's would have brought us up to a protection in the pwa that we vaporized in c2012.
I think Anderson was speaking in general terms regarding aircraft orders & deliveries during the call. The transcript is on seekingalpha.com for ease of use.
I think Anderson was speaking in general terms regarding aircraft orders & deliveries during the call. The transcript is on seekingalpha.com for ease of use.
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Do you expect the entire fleet make up as far as who operates what to be announced in December? Or just a numbers announcement?
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His statement was in response to a question specifically asking about the additional RJs.
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Kelly Yamanouchi - Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Great. And I was also wondering if there’s an idea for a timeframe for deployment of the additional 76-seaters once you reach a deal?
Richard Anderson
Kelly, this is Richard. Typically when you place an order for an airplane, the earliest you get it is 16 months to 18 months after you placed the order. So you would expect just like on our 73-900ER order, we placed that, it’ll be 2 years ago this August or August 13 and we’ll end up taking the airplanes somewhere around, the first airplane about 26 months after the order. So, and then you end up taking about a dozen the year, something like that. So I hope that helps give you some timeline.
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True. I think he chose to respond by talking generally about orders & deliveries. It's possible that the ERJ delivery timetable would have to be renegotiated given the swap out arrangement.
Kelly Yamanouchi - Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Great. And I was also wondering if there’s an idea for a timeframe for deployment of the additional 76-seaters once you reach a deal?
Richard Anderson
Kelly, this is Richard. Typically when you place an order for an airplane, the earliest you get it is 16 months to 18 months after you placed the order. So you would expect just like on our 73-900ER order, we placed that, it’ll be 2 years ago this August or August 13 and we’ll end up taking the airplanes somewhere around, the first airplane about 26 months after the order. So, and then you end up taking about a dozen the year, something like that. So I hope that helps give you some timeline.
Kelly Yamanouchi - Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Great. And I was also wondering if there’s an idea for a timeframe for deployment of the additional 76-seaters once you reach a deal?
Richard Anderson
Kelly, this is Richard. Typically when you place an order for an airplane, the earliest you get it is 16 months to 18 months after you placed the order. So you would expect just like on our 73-900ER order, we placed that, it’ll be 2 years ago this August or August 13 and we’ll end up taking the airplanes somewhere around, the first airplane about 26 months after the order. So, and then you end up taking about a dozen the year, something like that. So I hope that helps give you some timeline.
Maybe. I'm not familiar with how those options work. I was just going by what RA said.
#57
The 2012 pwa allows rah to place up to 9 pro-rate 44 seaters in service, which are exempt from the cap. NWA ordered 36 ERJ-175's with options for 36 more. We are still holding those options. 4 are available to Delta as early as 2013, 18 in 2014, and the remaining after 2014.
Where are you getting the 44 717 number? I'm not aware of any such requirement. The trigger is that the company first establishes a new fleet of narrow body aircraft (1 76 seater for every 1.25 717's), and secondly reduces 50 seaters IAW a scale in 1.b.46.f.
Where are you getting the 44 717 number? I'm not aware of any such requirement. The trigger is that the company first establishes a new fleet of narrow body aircraft (1 76 seater for every 1.25 717's), and secondly reduces 50 seaters IAW a scale in 1.b.46.f.
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" Now if you wanted to make a case for RAH's costs being higher, their completion factor / a14 numbers being worse, or the fact that shuttle america flies around the northeast at mach .64 then I could agree."
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Hahahahhahahahahaha, it's so true!
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