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#41
I disagree with you dash the only thing management at these places see is the dollar sign republic has 24 emb 145s they can get rid of and bring on emb 175s. Delta is trying to reduce their debt. What better way to do it than let someone else buy it. United and usair let republic fly for them delta probably doesn't care either.
You are logical but that's why your Wrong
You are logical but that's why your Wrong
#42
Disagree with you on this one, if DAL mgmt had a problem with RAH they would not have created a carve out for them on the new mainline contract holding company language. Now if you wanted to make a case for RAH's costs being higher, their completion factor / a14 numbers being worse, or the fact that shuttle america flies around the northeast at mach .64 then I could agree.
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I disagree with you dash the only thing management at these places see is the dollar sign republic has 24 emb 145s they can get rid of and bring on emb 175s. Delta is trying to reduce their debt. What better way to do it than let someone else buy it. United and usair let republic fly for them delta probably doesn't care either.
You are logical but that's why your Wrong
You are logical but that's why your Wrong
Also, under a capital lease, the lessee has pretty much all the benefits and risk of ownership. So the lessee (SkyWest, RAH, etc.) reports the leased asset on their balance sheet as an asset (equal to price of the lease) and as the lease as liability (price of the lease), thus essentially transferring it off of DAL's balance sheet (in the amount equal to the lease). Instead of it being listed as an expense (like say you renting a car), which is an operating lease.
Oh the wonderful dark world of accounting!
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Up to 9 of the EMB140's rah is going to operate as Delta Connection are carved out as a scope exemption. RAH is currently up to 29 EMB145's as Delta Connection.
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The other thing to remember is it will take several years to see the changes take effect. Delta hasn't ordered any additional large RJs yet. Delivery will likely take 16-18 months after they're ordered. 44 B717's must be operating in revenue service before a single large RJ can show up. We won't have 44 B717's into service until 2015. 88 B717's must be online before all 70 additional large RJs can be added.
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The 2012 pwa allows rah to place up to 9 pro-rate 44 seaters in service, which are exempt from the cap. NWA ordered 36 ERJ-175's with options for 36 more. We are still holding those options. 4 are available to Delta as early as 2013, 18 in 2014, and the remaining after 2014.
Where are you getting the 44 717 number? I'm not aware of any such requirement. The trigger is that the company first establishes a new fleet of narrow body aircraft (1 76 seater for every 1.25 717's), and secondly reduces 50 seaters IAW a scale in 1.b.46.f.
Where are you getting the 44 717 number? I'm not aware of any such requirement. The trigger is that the company first establishes a new fleet of narrow body aircraft (1 76 seater for every 1.25 717's), and secondly reduces 50 seaters IAW a scale in 1.b.46.f.
#47
The 2012 pwa allows rah to place up to 9 pro-rate 44 seaters in service, which are exempt from the cap. NWA ordered 36 ERJ-175's with options for 36 more. We are still holding those options. 4 are available to Delta as early as 2013, 18 in 2014, and the remaining after 2014.
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The 2012 pwa allows rah to place up to 9 pro-rate 44 seaters in service, which are exempt from the cap. NWA ordered 36 ERJ-175's with options for 36 more. We are still holding those options. 4 are available to Delta as early as 2013, 18 in 2014, and the remaining after 2014.
Where are you getting the 44 717 number? I'm not aware of any such requirement. The trigger is that the company first establishes a new fleet of narrow body aircraft (1 76 seater for every 1.25 717's), and secondly reduces 50 seaters IAW a scale in 1.b.46.f.
Where are you getting the 44 717 number? I'm not aware of any such requirement. The trigger is that the company first establishes a new fleet of narrow body aircraft (1 76 seater for every 1.25 717's), and secondly reduces 50 seaters IAW a scale in 1.b.46.f.
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