Eagle Flight 3215 10/28/12
10-28-2012 | 06:40 PM
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Eagle Flight 3215 10/28/12
Dear Pilot of American Eagle flight 3215 on 10/28/12 that operated from DFW to HOU,
Your comments on several frequencies today were unprofessional, disrespectful, and completely inappropriate. When given several commands by a very busy Controller, your response with "anything else" and a harsh attitude is an embarrassment and not compliant when reading back a clearance.
My airplane was near yours so I heard most of your read backs. I looked up your flight, you were close enough to on-time so being delayed and missing your commute home isn't an excuse for poor attitude. As I’m sure you are aware, those tapes are recorded, allowed to be listened to by anyone who has an internet connection, and broadcasted to passengers in several airplanes including mine. When my own client (who is also a private pilot) comes up to the flight deck and asks why you are being so rude, I can only shrug my shoulders and try to come up with an excuse. Since it's part of the entertainment system in our plane, they are allowed to listen to the same radio we use.
I've never met an unprofessional Eagle crewmember and I travel on you frequently. In fact, of all the regional airlines I fly on, Eagle is probably the most professional and that's not easy when your company is going through tough times. I went through the regional lifestyle for 6 years and I doubt what you're going through is so bad that you need to express it on the radio. If your life is so bad that you must act like this, then you should have called in sick this morning as you were not fit to fly.
If you were the First Officer, then your Captain should have put you in your place before you left the gate or ripped you a new one the first time you mouthed off. I honestly doubt you were the Captain but if so, you should know better then that. Not only did you embarrass yourself, you embarrassed your crew, your airline and most of all, OUR profession. Your attitude is unacceptable and I hope you grow up and learn how to act like a professional pilot.
Your comments on several frequencies today were unprofessional, disrespectful, and completely inappropriate. When given several commands by a very busy Controller, your response with "anything else" and a harsh attitude is an embarrassment and not compliant when reading back a clearance.
My airplane was near yours so I heard most of your read backs. I looked up your flight, you were close enough to on-time so being delayed and missing your commute home isn't an excuse for poor attitude. As I’m sure you are aware, those tapes are recorded, allowed to be listened to by anyone who has an internet connection, and broadcasted to passengers in several airplanes including mine. When my own client (who is also a private pilot) comes up to the flight deck and asks why you are being so rude, I can only shrug my shoulders and try to come up with an excuse. Since it's part of the entertainment system in our plane, they are allowed to listen to the same radio we use.
I've never met an unprofessional Eagle crewmember and I travel on you frequently. In fact, of all the regional airlines I fly on, Eagle is probably the most professional and that's not easy when your company is going through tough times. I went through the regional lifestyle for 6 years and I doubt what you're going through is so bad that you need to express it on the radio. If your life is so bad that you must act like this, then you should have called in sick this morning as you were not fit to fly.
If you were the First Officer, then your Captain should have put you in your place before you left the gate or ripped you a new one the first time you mouthed off. I honestly doubt you were the Captain but if so, you should know better then that. Not only did you embarrass yourself, you embarrassed your crew, your airline and most of all, OUR profession. Your attitude is unacceptable and I hope you grow up and learn how to act like a professional pilot.
10-28-2012 | 06:49 PM
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Hold on there DMB, maybe he's onto something here. I'm not going to spend any time looking up the tapes on Listen to Live ATC (Air Traffic Control) Communications | LiveATC.net, but I will listen to the recordings if someone else finds and posts them. If this crew member really was being an idiot on frequency, then maybe a good public thrashing is in order.
10-28-2012 | 06:55 PM
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fairly JR RSV captain, and soon to be 2 year FO. 1000 hours as Capt.
I put my money on the left seat! However your little rich man is no reason why any of us care how we talk on the radio, if I knew so many rich guys had this on their corporate jet as entertainment I would have been cracking tons more jokes about the rich. Going forward I will make sure I joke with controllers about it!! Maybe a new APC thread, joke of the day with ATC to **** off the rich guy who has comm 1 as a speaker in his plane!
I put my money on the left seat! However your little rich man is no reason why any of us care how we talk on the radio, if I knew so many rich guys had this on their corporate jet as entertainment I would have been cracking tons more jokes about the rich. Going forward I will make sure I joke with controllers about it!! Maybe a new APC thread, joke of the day with ATC to **** off the rich guy who has comm 1 as a speaker in his plane!
10-28-2012 | 07:13 PM
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fairly JR RSV captain, and soon to be 2 year FO. 1000 hours as Capt.
I put my money on the left seat! However your little rich man is no reason why any of us care how we talk on the radio, if I knew so many rich guys had this on their corporate jet as entertainment I would have been cracking tons more jokes about the rich. Going forward I will make sure I joke with controllers about it!! Maybe a new APC thread, joke of the day with ATC to **** off the rich guy who has comm 1 as a speaker in his plane!
I put my money on the left seat! However your little rich man is no reason why any of us care how we talk on the radio, if I knew so many rich guys had this on their corporate jet as entertainment I would have been cracking tons more jokes about the rich. Going forward I will make sure I joke with controllers about it!! Maybe a new APC thread, joke of the day with ATC to **** off the rich guy who has comm 1 as a speaker in his plane!
10-28-2012 | 08:09 PM
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You may call me Margaret, not Francis. HA. I have a sense of humor too!
My little rich man is far from that stereotype. This is my own business and my own airplane. He is one of my best customers and unlike most companies out there, I make it a point to keep my clients happy. Very few of my clients use this feature of the system but he does.
If anything, when pilots act like this it makes me look better and keeps my clients coming back since they know what to expect. Make all the jokes you want
My little rich man is far from that stereotype. This is my own business and my own airplane. He is one of my best customers and unlike most companies out there, I make it a point to keep my clients happy. Very few of my clients use this feature of the system but he does.
If anything, when pilots act like this it makes me look better and keeps my clients coming back since they know what to expect. Make all the jokes you want
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10-28-2012 | 08:57 PM
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An Eagle pilot had a bad day? So what. That poor controller. He’s so over worked? Not! How many times have I witnessed, or been on the business end of a cranky controller’s rude and dis-respectful wrath. Forget about it.
The ATC animal never has to worry about a furlough, a downgrade, or a termination. Unlike the majority of us, has a retirement.
So, the mean Eagle Pilot gave him some s@it.
The ATC animal never has to worry about a furlough, a downgrade, or a termination. Unlike the majority of us, has a retirement.
So, the mean Eagle Pilot gave him some s@it.
10-28-2012 | 09:38 PM
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Sir or Maam I nominate you TOTD! While you're criss-crossing the sky dealing with one person (heaven for-bid) I'm sure that crew had a whole list of things that led to their frustration. Spare us your better than though comments. Everyone is allowed a bad day (even pilots)....for you to call these guys out on a PUBLIC forum is a petty and egotistical move on your part. If it was as bad as you said it was im sure the feds would handle it accordingly. You friend are a tool
10-28-2012 | 10:02 PM
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Sir or Maam I nominate you TOTD! While you're criss-crossing the sky dealing with one person (heaven for-bid) I'm sure that crew had a whole list of things that led to their frustration. Spare us your better than though comments. Everyone is allowed a bad day (even pilots)....for you to call these guys out on a PUBLIC forum is a petty and egotistical move on your part. If it was as bad as you said it was im sure the feds would handle it accordingly. You friend are a tool
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