Usually, you sign a promisory note at the first day of training, not at an exit interview.

That being said, if you don't sign the promisory note during your indoc, you will be asked to leave.

 

I have been to two different companies with training contract. None of them had me or any other pilot sign a promisory note on day one at least in the classes im familiar with. When i left one of those companies, an exit interview was schedule in which they tried to get me to sign a promisary note. I knew if i signed that document, now this would be a legal contract.

The document you sign on day one does not have a payment plan. Compass' training contract is set up a bit diffent in the fact that it states the total and how much you would have to repay for each month still remaining on that contract. It's still not a promisory note to repay. Unless you sign a document saying you agree to a certain payment plan either weekly, monthly, bi-weekly, yearly they have no grounds to collect money from you. If they do decide to bring it to court, you can argue the fact that you did not agree to a payment plan. You could pay a penny every 10 year and be in agreement to the document you signed on day 1 that did not include a payment plan.

I have dealt with this in real life. Not putting in my assumptions here.

Like I said, AOPA has an awesome legal service that will help you through all of this. These contracts are not legal until you sign a promisory note.

 

Legalities aside, thumbing your nose at a training contract sounds like an excellent way to put a black mark on your employment record. Can't imagine they'll tell future prospective employers "yes" when they ask if you're eligible for rehire.

 

One other thing before you pass up a class date with OO for an unknown future class date with CP...

We (CPZ) don't have any large-scale hiring planned until Delta takes flow-throughs. They're now telling their guys it could be 2014. At the earliest, it'll likely be next fall. Until then any hiring at CPZ will be pretty sporadic as we lose a couple mid-seniority guys a month. If you're high up in the pool then you may get a class date this winter/spring, but I'd expect to stay on reserve a while. Not sure how SKW compares these days.

 

You are right but it's completly illegal and unethical for a company to reveal anything related to why they will not rehire (im sure they do anyway).. just as not paying back could be viewed as unethical.

You wouldnt make that comment unless you think these companies were doing things that are unethical or is capable of. Double standard.. We are expected to be perfect humans with flawless records and character when these companies could do every illegal that they want and get away with it just because of our fears.

And as you already know, our previous company does not re-hire anyone..thats a fact

 

Dude. You do work at the same place as me, right!? Look at our DO!

And yeah, my understanding is that most companies won't reveal why a former employee is ineligible for rehire, but it's pretty rare that someone is not, so it raises big questions that you may have to answer before getting that dream job.

 

If he can get jobs and promotions after his pass transgression, i have a lot of potential, hope, and chances for growth in my future.

 

Interesting tangent this has taken from what I originally posted... BUT to answer the question of am I safe from furlough depends on the question if 9E has any idea of what their fleet plan will be. If it stays the same the case can be made that I am safe with attrition being what it is, however if the fleet shrinks then I'd most likely be out the door once 12-04 and the supposed 12-05/13-01 is all trained through. The thought plan is to hang on for CP until they call but the fact that it is an unknown class date is the only worry....

 

what is the current attrition like now? just curious i used to be there as well

 

Check the latest pool update, best info for your decision I think.