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11-27-2012, 04:11 AM

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ASAnotASAP

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Part of the ATP rule is that EVERYONE has to have a PIC type... We all know the SIC types are worthless anyways...

Do you have a reference for this?

11-27-2012, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP

Do you have a reference for this?

Many majors and legacies do not type their FOs, they just have an ATP. Some have no previous type ratings.

11-27-2012, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Senior Skipper

What's the "PIC type" worth?

I've heard about $150,000 per year in China. If you're up for that kind of thing.

11-27-2012, 06:50 AM

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Many majors and legacies do not type their FOs, they just have an ATP. Some have no previous type ratings.

Yes, it's kind of weird. Delta types their FOs in everything except the MD88/90 & DC9. Even the B737 & A320.

11-27-2012, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Part of the ATP rule is that EVERYONE has to have a PIC type... We all know the SIC types are worthless anyways...

I do not recall reading this anywhere. Since an ATP ride is the same as a type ride, they might as well just check that box on the 8710 as well. It will save the company money at upgrade time.

Also a PIC type without actual PIC experience isn't worth much on the job market anyway.

11-27-2012, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP

Do you have a reference for this?

The requirement to have a PIC type to act as SIC is part of a propsed rule, but the final rule hasn't been issued yet. At the same time, the requirement to have an ATP has been issued in a final rule, and as far as I know, if an ATP is being issued based on a ride in an airplane that requires a type, it also has to be a type-ride.

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/rulemaking/recently_published/media/2120-AJ67NPRM.pdf

11-27-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Well stated, enough said!

11-27-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29

I've heard about $150,000 per year in China. If you're up for that kind of thing.

Nope. PIC time is worth that money. China wants people with PIC time in type.

11-27-2012, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mason32

Because a lot of part 91 operators would.

Interesting. I hadn't thought of this. I know there are a handful of Embraer corporate operators out there. How far does the CRJ rating go when you're looking to get typed in a Global or Challenger? Is it a quick differences course, or a whole new event?

11-27-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP

Part 91 operators generally don't care where you get the PIC time from, or under which regulation you logged it, so long as you have it and can be insured. If someone was looking to leave the airlines and fly corporate, it could be a windfall for them.

This former AWAC FO/current Part 91 chief pilot would not look favoribly upon a candidate who, as a 121 first officer, had logged TPIC with the sole manipulator clause as their justification.

But its yer logbook, do whatever ya want...

Also, "Getting insured" is not a problem and anyone who says otherwise hasn't tried.