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MEMbrain 11-28-2012 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1300756)
I believe that began in the November A380 bid pack.

No, just an A380 payscale that ALPA idiotically traded the company for 757 narrowbody pay when the company already decided to cancel the A380 order.

Redbird611 11-28-2012 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by fatsopilot (Post 1300744)
I don't understand how this would be that hard to figure out.

Come on now. Post #4 specifically cited FedEx in a way that sounded (to me anyway) separate from the other Memphis businesses. I thought perhaps they had an operational consideration besides the obvious. By posting what I did I learned about all the positioning deadheads out of MEM (post #21). We can't all be as smart as you, but you don't have to be an arrogant d*** about it.

rightside02 11-28-2012 03:16 PM

I agree with the Memphis sucks part... Place is booty !!! Ok sure there are some nice places , however few and far between !!! Good luck to the FDX commuters

Captain Tony 11-29-2012 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1300735)
FDX deadheads thousands of pilots out of MEM on Delta to start their trips in a different city (on FDX dime not a commuter/nonrev thing). Having to go thru ATL or another hub eats up lots of their duty time and they can no longer fly on DL AND do their FDX trip the same day. So FDX pays them for another duty day/hotel etc. Its gotten so bad that FDX have been deadheading crews on their corporate lears.


Originally Posted by fatsopilot (Post 1300744)
A company that employees 200,000 people and is based out of Memphis isn't going to care when the airline providing major air service to the city pulls out? Of course they care, it isn't just pilots that travel. I don't understand how this would be that hard to figure out.

You've got to be kidding me. are the airlines in business to subsidize local business? And each other's crews? Is this a government funded thing now?

If the companies based in MEM can't fill a plane (profitably), then their employees need to connect like everyone else, or they need to sign a contract with the airline to subsidize the service like other small markets do. Otherwise, the companies have the choice to boost their corporate flight department or relocate. This isn't a communist country. Either way, it's not the airlines' problem. They answer to their own shareholders.

As for FDX... too stinking bad. DAL has a booming cargo business, and they're probably enjoying turning the screws on FDX.

mooney 11-29-2012 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFDX (Post 1300750)
Really, what bid pack is that in?

straight from 2 friends and a relative that work there, thank's for trolling though.

mooney 11-29-2012 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1300770)
So Delta is supposed to continue service on low demand, unprofitable routes simply so Fed Ex doesn't have to 2 leg crew members? Maybe Fed Ex should just start chartering airplanes, unless they want to cover the losses on the routes.


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1301269)
You've got to be kidding me. are the airlines in business to subsidize local business? And each other's crews? Is this a government funded thing now?

If the companies based in MEM can't fill a plane (profitably), then their employees need to connect like everyone else, or they need to sign a contract with the airline to subsidize the service like other small markets do. Otherwise, the companies have the choice to boost their corporate flight department or relocate. This isn't a communist country. Either way, it's not the airlines' problem. They answer to their own shareholders.

As for FDX... too stinking bad. DAL has a booming cargo business, and they're probably enjoying turning the screws on FDX.


you all realize all I did was state a fact right? not that I'm defending or sympathizing with them? or do you just like to come on here and preach to the choir?

Captain Tony 11-29-2012 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1301449)
you all realize all I did was state a fact right? not that I'm defending or sympathizing with them? or do you just like to come on here and preach to the choir?


nevermind... not worth my effort.

mooney 11-29-2012 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1301463)
nevermind... not worth my effort.


go ahead Tony you usually bash my posts whenever you respond to them why stop now?

fatsopilot 11-29-2012 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1301269)
You've got to be kidding me. are the airlines in business to subsidize local business? And each other's crews? Is this a government funded thing now?


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1300770)
So Delta is supposed to continue service on low demand, unprofitable routes simply so Fed Ex doesn't have to 2 leg crew members?

No, they shouldn't if it isn't making them money. No one said they should. If they made promises written or unwritten they should honor those promises however. Other than that this is still a free country. You two clearly read too much into our posts. Overreact much?

mooney 11-29-2012 08:30 AM

^^^^^^^ this thanks Fatso.


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