I don't think Delta has a 1,000 TPIC requirement do they.

Good friend of mine was hired with less, but he had an outstanding background as an Instructor at Delta, then several thousand hours of SIC on jets. His problems was Delta kept recalling him into ground management jobs every time he would be ready for upgrade, so he gave up his seniority, twice, to return to management positions.

Sounds like a good problem to have and not the norm for 99% of us. It is not a paper requirement at DAL but when your applying against 10,000 people who do have it the reality is that DAL, UAL, LCC, FDX, SWA etc all hire on average people with >1000tpic. Again, if you know people in mgmt or if you just so happen to improve workplace diversity then chances are better that you can get hired without it.

As it relates to the whole pncl discussion, this quasi-requirement results in pilots who are going to feel that they are not marketable without that number, and without currency they also wont be as marketable at the regional level. I think those kinda considerations affect the way people vote.

During the last 2 rounds of hiring at Delta in 2008 and 2010, very few new hires didn't have the 1000 PIC. In all reality it's a pretty hard # unless you are very special and connected.

I guess my bus wasn't short enough.

The flows will eat up most of the classroom seats for the 1st couple years of hiring. On top of that you a few airlines with guaranteed interviews. If you don't have flow rights or a guaranteed interview it's going to be extremely competitive getting any of the left over spots.

There won't be any opportunities to get the 1000 PIC at 9E if this thing passes. There won't be any captain spots available. The top is going to log jam, with very very little movement.

That is crystal clear to me and I hope everyone at 9e as well. The only reason I brought it up is because I don't see the people without it going straight to mainline when they are furloughed and jumping in front of the people who have thousands of hours tpic. It seems like a small point, but the reality is that it drives the whole regional pilot game, it is the only reason why GoJet is able to find anyone to fill a seat. The 9e voters who do not have tpic will vote to stay employed as long as possible, because they need to stay current to be competitive at the regional level. Lateral moves suck, but that is the reality that these people are dealing with.

If an Fo at 9E thinks he has a better chance at DAL outside the bridge (admitted it is slim inside) he/she can apply through normal channels. And if "Chuck Yeager" (road show description) get hired thorugh the normal route. If he/she believe it will be a CA deadend then leave now before the rush and try it somewhere else. All a No vote does for them is put them into the job hunt with EVERYONE. If the a/c go to other carriers and the CA's bail who will get the street CA jobs? An FO with 1501 hours and a new ATP or a 7,000 hour CA with 1,000 TPIC? It is best for the FO's to keep CA's stuck at PNCL to keep them out of the job hunt. Vote yes, take your $$, get a job then bail (in that order) and don't look back.

That bonus will be taxed heavily, also hiring won't really happen at the next level for another few years. Vote yes, and Delta has the opportunity to whipsaw other DCI carriers because of your Yes vote. Which in turn would also hit your pocket book at the next carrier you move onto due to having to match what you voted Yes to at 9E. Voting yes then bailing will have lasting ramifications on this industry as a whole. It's no coincidence most 9e'ers advocating a "Yes" vote are senior captains @ 9E.

I'm not telling you how to vote, but have an opened mind because both have variables that will impact you for years to come.

I'd like to look in your crystal ball. The fact is, no one truely knows how a yes or no vote will affect the other regionals. Delta's always dicking with somebody. Whether it's regional airlines or the ground handeling. Comairs gone, so they moved on to Pinnacle. Pinnacles gone, they'll move on to someone else. And don't think it was just because of Pinnacle's bankruptcy. Because that whole thing smells like fish to me.