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Originally Posted by Bartok
(Post 1323298)
Lol
You guys act like we weren't "owned" by Delta already. Nothing has changed for us. Someone else will just get richer. All part of the plan. Move along.......Move along.............. |
The Most Influential Airlines Of 2013
Pinnacle Airlines will be the focus of the U.S. regional airline industry in 2013. Operating under Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection since April 2012, Pinnacle's reorganization will have a major bearing on the future of rivals SkyWest Inc. and Republic Airways, which are both anticipating a sharp reduction in Pinnacle's operations. It is likely that Pinnacle will bear the brunt of partner Delta Air Lines' planned cuts in regional jet requirements, and the carrier has already shed its contracts with other major airlines. There may still be a future for Pinnacle if its pilots agree to an extensive concessions package, although the likelihood is that the carrier will become another victim of consolidation. |
Originally Posted by samballs
(Post 1323400)
Are you going with, "if you block out the obvious it won't happen" approach
If John Spanky Spangers is your CEO, you are being run by someone else. This has been Deltas circus from the beginning. |
Published December 17, 2012 which means it was written in late Nov or earlier Dec before the TA was published, announcements about flow were made and the possibility of Delta owning Pinnacle was made public. This situation unfolds by the hour. |
Originally Posted by Will
(Post 1323229)
Why don't some of you guys from other carriers go to one of our road shows and find out what really is happening here at PCL and what is projected to happen. I guess it wouldn't be as fun spouting off facts instead of rumors on APC.
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Having been to multiple road shows in the past, I have to agree with the above. The MEC in the past has bent over backwards to sell ice to Eskimos when it comes to TAs. The did the same with TA1 a couple of years ago even when everyone except for the top 10% knew it was crap. Sure they're under new management, but I'm sure not much has changed. It's bad for business if the union approves a TA, sends it to the pilots for a vote, but then tells you it's not a good deal.
And you have to look at more than just hourly pay rates when it comes to FO and FA pay. After the end on next year, FOs will be lucky to break 80 hours a month. Thanks to the revolving door and lack of FAA mins, there actually is a lot more earning potential for a topped out FA than a topped out FO. |
Originally Posted by phuz
(Post 1323344)
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this doesn't happen often. I'ma go refuel my corsair :cool: |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1323342)
If I heard correctly, a topped out 9E FA would make more than a topped out FO. What self respectig FO would vote yes to this?
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
(Post 1323412)
"Pinnacle Airlines will be the focus of the U.S. regional airline industry in 2013. Operating under Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection since April 2012, Pinnacle's reorganization will have a major bearing on the future of rivals SkyWest Inc. and Republic Airways, which are both anticipating a sharp reduction in Pinnacle's operations. It is likely that Pinnacle will bear the brunt of partner Delta Air Lines' planned cuts in regional jet requirements, and the carrier has already shed its contracts with other major airlines. There may still be a future for Pinnacle if its pilots agree to an extensive concessions package, although the likelihood is that the carrier will become another victim of consolidation."
Published December 17, 2012 which means it was written in late Nov or earlier Dec before the TA was published, announcements about flow were made and the possibility of Delta owning Pinnacle was made public. This situation unfolds by the hour. |
A FA with 6 years seniority will make more than an FO on first year pay. After year 1 FO's will make more than any FA on property. You guys are making a big issue out of something that has been happening for a long time. Compare the starting pay that at some of the majors compared to senior FA's. The No voters are grasping at strings here to try and sway votes to closing PCL down. At least they are trying to use facts they just are giving pilots a small glimpse of the big picture.
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