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So if you make less than a fast food worker and have 50 lives in your hand and ask Delta for a livable wage - you have an attitude? You may want to re-check your facts.

I just want to tell you, when Delta brought Comair we were all so very happy. Then their true colaors came out. Delta didn't buy Comair to benefit them or Delta, they brought them to shut them down but to eliminate a potential competitior that would have given Delta a run for thier money.

When is the vote?

Grammar errors correction to avoid the grammar nazis!! :p

Started on JAN 04 ends on the 15th.

Dancing around everyone calling you out when you said all Comair pilots had bad attitudes and poor performance? You just spew a bunch of crap and then try to hide from it by avoiding it later? Good luck in life if that's all you have going for you. :rolleyes:

Always has been and always will be an empty red-herring used to to try and silence the union dissenters. When was the last time any CEO came to the pilot group and said "Gee guys, we're all outta ideas up here. Got any solutions???" We're here to make get people from A to B safely. Unless your "solution" is to increase the bottom line (i.e. paycuts), management doesn't look to us for our input or feedback. The "solution" of taking 3 steps back (i.e. living to fight another day) is exactly what has brought this industry to the tumultuous state it's in today. Belliott stated it very well. Got any solutions that DON'T involve kicking the industry in the nuts, Check?

I will say this simply. I realize this is not what you want to hear but the whole reason to outsource is to save money. Cheap carriers will get more business than expensive ones. If you think that because you have a lot of responsibility in the job you are supposed to be doing and that translates into a good salary, well thats not the way salaries work. Teachers provide an invaluable service and they are not paid very well for it. I think that pay for first officers is criminal. The only way that will change is if no one takes the job at that level of pay. My point with Comair versus Pinnacle is that the pilot group at Pinnacle has not had the same problems with their mainline counterparts. I am basing this on hearsay and anecdotal evidence. The only reason I bring this up is because people think that Pinnacle is dead because Delta is acquiring them.

Why is it that when workers in this country express gratitude and show loyalty to their company they are called company men. If your management doesn't treat you the way you deserve or wish to be treated the only honorable thing to do is resign. I don't agree with or support sticking around the organization and try to sabotage it.

All yes, the ole "the world isn't fair bit". Do you have any idea what the world would be like if no one ever stood up for their rights, beliefs, fairness and all that? You absolutely can make a positive change on an organization or industry. Maybe not always in the short term, but I doubt we'd have things as good as we do today if people simply gave up.