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ShyGuy 01-16-2013 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1332003)
How do you do this? Photoshop?

Colnago 01-16-2013 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1328391)
When management comes to you with a big stick and asks for concessions, all you have to do is follow the advice you are giving Pinnacle pilots ................ vote NO.

Problem solved, right?
Best post of the thread right here!

Will 01-16-2013 03:29 PM
Sorry ShyGuy most people on this thread know you work for that LCC Virgin America. I do stand by my statement PCL will be around longer than Virgin America.

ShyGuy 01-16-2013 05:02 PM
We'll see, time will tell. I don't wish unemployment on anyone, so I don't want to take a bet on who will last longer.

Nevets 01-16-2013 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamers (Post 1331986)
You're correct. You would vote against union representation and remain a Koolaid drinker at your lcc airline. You would never have a choice to vote yes or no.
I haven't had the chance to vote yes/no on union representation yet, because it never got to that point. Koolaid drinker? Hardly.

Besides, union representation at the regional level, what good has it done? Look at 9E's story. Then look at perhaps arguably the best run (and paid) regional airline in the country, Skywest. They are non-union, and look where they are today despite the industry struggles. A union at the regional level has virtually zero leverage, because they are doing contract feed, and it can be given away to the lowest bidder. In negotiations, you fight and gain with leverage. Without leverage, there's nothing to fight with.
So you think that 9E would have fared better in this bankruptcy if they decertified?

200Driver 01-16-2013 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Will (Post 1332018)
I do stand by my statement PCL will be around longer than Virgin America.
So you think Virgin America will be shut down by 2015-2016?

ShyGuy 01-16-2013 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1332109)
So you think that 9E would have fared better in this bankruptcy if they decertified?
9E would have never gotten to this point if they had decertified long ago, 1 yr after the amendable date for example. The 2006 "last and final best offer" would have become the contract, and would have served under that from 2006 to 2011, instead of the 1999 contract from 2006 to 2011. Not to mention, the 1999 CBA was a jets jobs contract to ensure 9E would be the launch customer of the CRJ for Northwest, at wages lower than Mesaba.

ShyGuy 01-16-2013 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 200Driver (Post 1332155)
So you think Virgin America will be shut down by 2015-2016?
I hope not :D


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