Pinnacle TA consequences forSkyWest/Expessjet
01-11-2013 | 12:15 AM
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Imagine getting kicked in the nuts...now imagine getting kicked simultaneously by 2300 pilots. That's the consequence.
Oh...and this too....
Oh...and this too....
Just came through recurrent. Hiring is now totally STOPPED (On the ASA side.) Apparently we are in a holding pattern while we wait for the vote of the Pinnacle TA. Word around town is that once they vote this TA in, management is going to come back with a "here is the industry standard now!" If you (Pinnacle guys vote this in, we are all truly doomed!) I guess we will wait and see!
01-11-2013 | 03:11 AM
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They are going to kicked regardless of the outcome of the TA. If it passes, Delta asks Skywest Holdings to beat block hour cost of PCL. If the TA does not pass, Delta threatens the same fate as Comair and Pinnacle if Skywest Holdings does not lower its block hour cost. If it does not pass, Skywest/Expressjet may get some airframes out of the deal but it will probably be a steep loss and management will surely explain the need for concessions.
01-11-2013 | 03:57 AM
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They are going to kicked regardless of the outcome of the TA. If it passes, Delta asks Skywest Holdings to beat block hour cost of PCL. If the TA does not pass, Delta threatens the same fate as Comair and Pinnacle if Skywest Holdings does not lower its block hour cost. If it does not pass, Skywest/Expressjet may get some airframes out of the deal but it will probably be a steep loss and management will surely explain the need for concessions.
If the TA does pass, our management has the ability to tell us here's the new standard, make it happen. If it doesn't pass and is forced on Pinnacle, at least we can make an argument against stooping that low and keeping our rates up. And if we can continue to diversify our flying with other carriers, we can tell mother Delta to shove it.
01-11-2013 | 04:16 AM
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The TA is going to pass by a significant margin. We are deciding to punt on fourth and one, down by fourteen. We will still lose, just not as bad of a loss. This is going to suck for you, us and the industry.
01-11-2013 | 04:39 AM
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They are going to kicked regardless of the outcome of the TA. If it passes, Delta asks Skywest Holdings to beat block hour cost of PCL. If the TA does not pass, Delta threatens the same fate as Comair and Pinnacle if Skywest Holdings does not lower its block hour cost. If it does not pass, Skywest/Expressjet may get some airframes out of the deal but it will probably be a steep loss and management will surely explain the need for concessions.
I may as well start a poll blaming Comair being shut down for Pinnacle's problems.....it would be about as useful
or how about....consequences of Pinnacle voting no and being shut down on SKW? then you will vote in a pay cut because 50 -900's are being dangled in front of you and Daddy D says "take this or we shut you too." Everyone is screwed anyway don't blame them!
01-11-2013 | 05:16 AM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
I don't think ASA / Skywest will lose flying, but management will come at you for concessions to match Pinnacle's new entry in the race to the bottom.
Pinnacle's negotiations violated Section 40 of the Admin Manual and violated the Constitution and Bylaws. Talk to your Reps, get your MEC Chair to call an Executive Board. Over ride the PNCL agreement.
Pinnacle's negotiations violated Section 40 of the Admin Manual and violated the Constitution and Bylaws. Talk to your Reps, get your MEC Chair to call an Executive Board. Over ride the PNCL agreement.
01-11-2013 | 05:21 AM
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From: Airbus button pusher
Wow man someone forward me the address of an Asa or Skywest pilot so I can forward them my signing bonus from the pncl ta. Wait nevermind I could care less what happens to any other regional. But then again I have a pipe dream where every regional goes out of business...
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