Pinnacle TA consequences forSkyWest/Expessjet
01-11-2013, 05:55 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by anthony210
Ok. I will vote no if you guys give me a job at my current pay level, I don't even need the seniority for bidding. Oh wait that wont happen that's why I voted yes.
01-11-2013, 06:01 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by Saabs
Wow man someone forward me the address of an Asa or Skywest pilot so I can forward them my signing bonus from the pncl ta. Wait nevermind I could care less what happens to any other regional. But then again I have a pipe dream where every regional goes out of business...
01-11-2013, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
I'm not sure where you sit on the seniority list, but the majority of your guys *SHOULD* care what happens to other regionals as a result of this vote because Pinnacle pilots will make up the majority of any new hire classes at other regionals. And they'll have to live with the severe consequences of their Pinnacle TA yes vote at their next regional job.
Don't be so short sighted guys, look at the big picture.
01-11-2013, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by anthony210
Ok. I will vote no if you guys give me a job at my current pay level, I don't even need the seniority for bidding. Oh wait that wont happen that's why I voted yes.
So, go ahead and vote yes, and when you start over at another regional in a years time. You can't bi*** about wages since your "yes" vote was what created "the new standard"
01-11-2013, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
Wow man someone forward me the address of an Asa or Skywest pilot so I can forward them my signing bonus from the pncl ta. Wait nevermind I could care less what happens to any other regional. But then again I have a pipe dream where every regional goes out of business...
Ok there is going to be very very little hiring this year, and as its starting to look maybe not a whole lot next year.
Your saving your job for a year and then your getting laid off.
For some reason our FOs think this is going to save their job, guys its just delaying your job loss that's all.
Unless you go to another regional in the next year to year and a half your gone and will no longer be current.
We also have a fair amount of FOs that seem to think within the next year or so they're gonna get hired at a major, because this hiring boom is gonna be so massive.
For 99% of our FOs if you want to keep flying its going to be at another regional.
01-11-2013, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
so in the name of Unity and Brotherhood and not dragging the industry down how many of you are willing to get us hired on at your airline with our current longevity/seniority? crickets.....
Yeah, look at all the support the TSA guys got for trying to hold the line when gojets was created. We get told off daily now that we should have "just said yes". Not that I support the pinnacle guys approving this abortion of a TA, but this "support" from other airlines doesn't exist.
01-11-2013, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by seafeye
ALPA national should not have signed off on this.
Pay isn't everything that goes into costing. We still retain some BETTER THAN INDUSTRY STANDARD provisions. Healthcare, min day, JR assignment protection, post-2014 vacation accrual, per diem. Please stop acting like we are GoJet (no "s" on GOJET).
01-11-2013, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TBucket
Yeah, look at all the support the TSA guys got for trying to hold the line when gojets was created. We get told off daily now that we should have "just said yes". Not that I support the pinnacle guys approving this abortion of a TA, but this "support" from other airlines doesn't exist.
01-11-2013, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
I'm not sure where you sit on the seniority list, but the majority of your guys *SHOULD* care what happens to other regionals as a result of this vote because Pinnacle pilots will make up the majority of any new hire classes at other regionals. And they'll have to live with the severe consequences of their Pinnacle TA yes vote at their next regional job.
Quoted for the truth. I don't work for Pinnacle, but I hope they realize how their vote today will affect other regionals now, and themselves tomorrow.
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