Are you trying to make someone chase their tail?

 

I did answer your question. Posted the text of the agreement in the other thread.

 

The vault letter is under lock and key, you can only see it under controlled circumstances.

 

Bucking Bar I am not trying to be sarcastic but can you explain the frustration you have with the SSP in simple terms.

 

What is an "SSP" ?

 

BS to all 3 counts Bar!!

(1) Good for 9E for getting the next batch of CRJ 900's. After the crap sandwich that just got shoved down their throats thats at least a little bit of a consolation prize for them. If ASA pilots are upset that the next lot of 900's is going to 9E instead of them then that is nothing more than sour grapes on their part.

(2) If you think that the 9E pilots agreed to pay cuts in order to get 900's and a bridge agreement than you have no clue what you are talking about. The pay cuts were a result of their company being in bankruptch.

(3) The 9E contract that was just signed is still an industry average contract. Not saying it's the best but it isn't the worst in the DCI game. There are more guilty airlines in the race to the bottom claim you make so go grip at them and not 9E.

Bar, it's easy for you to say from the outside looking in that the 9E pilot group should have fallen on their swords and taken one for the good of the DCI rat race. I'm not sure how long you have been at Delta but if you have been around a while you took much much larger paycuts yourself and kissed your pension goodbye so it's pretty hypocritical of yourself make such claims about TW screwing over ASA and the "DCI rat race to the bottom"

 

I am surprised at the anger/frustration generated over whether someone has a college degree or not.

 

It has little to do with stick and rudder skills. It's more about motivation, dedication, leadership, & desire to succeed. Those that are driven to get the degree show more motivation then those who don't. They show that they possess the ability to learn, listen, & follow instructions. They can excel in areas outside of the flight deck.

As to your jabs at those individuals involved in unfortunate situations, you may want to tread lightly. Karma can be a mean beast. Try to show a little class.

 

That was before his time.

 

Do you want the new normal to be that new aircraft will be predicated on pay cuts? Because that's the new normal in the regional sector right now. That puts pressure on Delta's narrowbody rates, makes DC9s/717s/MD80s less attractive to keep around, and ensures that DL management tries even harder for additional outsourced 76+ seat replacement jets next time.

Even under the T/A, 3/4 of the 9E pilots will lose their jobs. 85% did not vote yes for the benefit of the senior 1/4. They voted yes for the bridge agreement, which went away if they voted no. The bridge agreement was a very necessary carrot for Pinnacle to set a new low in small jet pay. Your job was commoditized as a tool of pilot wage repression.

Actually no, it's not industry average, their old contract was industry average. The new rates are considerably lower than several contracts currently at or past their amendment dates. It will put enormous pressure on us at Compass who are currently in expedited negotiations with mandatory arbitration, and, until now, had high hopes of getting a decent raise & contract improvements. All with ALPA's stamp of approval.