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Originally Posted by IBPilot
(Post 1330719)
hiding behing a screenname and being an internet warrior starting threads bashing other pilots takes a lot of guts and fortitude, eh? and don't give me any "educational purposes" bs.
I'd be mad if I were in your poop filled shoes too. |
Originally Posted by IBPilot
(Post 1330719)
taking a 50% pay and QOL cut takes a lot of guts and fortitude, eh?
You voted for it overwhelmingly! |
Originally Posted by NoHandHold
(Post 1330729)
You mad bro? LOL
I'd be mad if I were in your poop filled shoes too. |
Originally Posted by IBPilot
(Post 1330741)
ya, I get mad when teenagers and god's gifts to the regionals like you bash others not knowing how they voted who will now be on the street.....
Miss Cleo? wth? |
Originally Posted by IBPilot
(Post 1330719)
Originally Posted by NoHandHold
(Post 1330693)
Wow! Somebody with foresight & fortitude. I applaud you sir. Many of your coworkers and other folks countrywide can benefit from some of the things you are displaying here.
hiding behing a screenname and being an internet warrior starting threads bashing other pilots who will be out of a job or taking a 50% pay and QOL cut takes a lot of guts and fortitude, eh? and don't give me any "educational purposes" bs. |
Really?
It's annoying to see everybody ridiculing and blaming Pinnacle pilots for the TA being being passed. In the airline pilot profession, specifically the regionals, pilots have literally zero power, because its not their branded flying. Delta purposely built language in there secret CPAs so that they have back door exits to get out of contracts or manipulate the company enough to have much less money than it planned on having.
This reminds me of the Satellite dish service guy that said it would be $39.99 a month, but when the bill came it was $80.00 or more. You planned on a certain amount, but in the fine print language interpretation you realize they can do what they want. Throw on top of that gross mismanagement and the RLA and what choices with which are the pinnacle pilots left? You are only worth what you can negotiate, and unfortunately due to industry laws, supply and demand, and pocketbook, DELTA is in control. At least for now. A lot of companies in wide ranging industries all over the country know that right now they can get away with treating their employees like crap because the economy is down and many in the labor force do not have many options to do anything about their bad treatment. However as history shows, everything goes in cycles, and following periods where companies treat people like ****, are periods where employees have all the leverage, force higher wages, and jump around the next highest paying job while the company eats the turds. I would even go as far as saying most people in the workforce would leave their job for a better paying job in a second despite how well a previous employer treated them, which is part of the modern phenomenon of employees not staying with the same company their whole life any more (and why people dont stay married anymore). Instead of saying how weak pinnacle pilots are, pehaps give condolences for their loss. For everybodys loss in this profession. Lord knows your regional carrier is probably next on the chopping block, and you too will see how powerless you really are. |
Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
(Post 1330743)
I love it when an Internet tough guy tells someone they are hiding behind a screen name. What would you do if you knew his identity? Nothing.
and do tell, did I threaten him? Call his momma a name? what did I say that was "tough guy"? |
Originally Posted by marlonmoneda1
(Post 1330748)
It's annoying to see everybody ridiculing and blaming Pinnacle pilots for the TA being being passed. In the airline pilot profession, specifically the regionals, pilots have literally zero power, because its not their branded flying. Delta purposely built language in there secret CPAs so that they have back door exits to get out of contracts or manipulate the company enough to have much less money than it planned on having.
This reminds me of the Satellite dish service guy that said it would be $39.99 a month, but when the bill came it was $80.00 or more. You planned on a certain amount, but in the fine print language interpretation you realize they can do what they want. Throw on top of that gross mismanagement and the RLA and what choices with which are the pinnacle pilots left? You are only worth what you can negotiate, and unfortunately due to industry laws, supply and demand, and pocketbook, DELTA is in control. At least for now. A lot of companies in wide ranging industries all over the country know that right now they can get away with treating their employees like crap because the economy is down and many in the labor force do not have many options to do anything about their bad treatment. However as history shows, everything goes in cycles, and following periods where companies treat people like ****, are periods where employees have all the leverage, force higher wages, and jump around the next highest paying job while the company eats the turds. I would even go as far as saying most people in the workforce would leave their job for a better paying job in a second despite how well a previous employer treated them, which is part of the modern phenomenon of employees not staying with the same company their whole life any more (and why people dont stay married anymore). Instead of saying how weak pinnacle pilots are, pehaps give condolences for their loss. For everybodys loss in this profession. Lord knows your regional carrier is probably next on the chopping block, and you too will see how powerless you really are. This is no place for facts and common sense. It is a place for 1 or 3 ASA/XJT goons to prove to people they have balls........:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by IBPilot
(Post 1330754)
Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
(Post 1330743)
I love it when an Internet tough guy tells someone they are hiding behind a screen name. What would you do if you knew his identity? Nothing.
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What else is new? Same arguments and points that have been made for years. It's very hard to vote yourself out of a job.
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