Originally Posted by LarryDavid (Post 1330855)

It is easy to tell someone how to vote until you are actually in their shoes. Guys saying that you can make more at home depot or on unemployment are full of rubish. Unless you have prior experience almost any job you get will be starting at the bottom for like $10-15/hr.

If anything what has been going on at the regionals is just a lesson to always leave yourself with outs. Even if you never have to go through what the 9E guys did you may still lose your medical. It should be the cardnial rule. Always have a plan b and heck even a plan c and d. The majors went through it in the 2000s, all regional guys are next. Now it is United's turn to dangle the carrots. US Air and american are probably close behind. There really needs to be a flying the line Vol.3 written about all this horse crap.

Originally Posted by NoHandHold (Post 1330571)

Who am I talking about? Pinnacle!

I make this thread for educational purposes...these pilots should have seen this coming a MILE AWAY. Let's recognize the symptoms so this doesn't happen again.

Ok....from the beginning now....

1. Pinnacle chooses to self finance 900's and underbid flying to gain regional market share. #FAIL

2. Pinnacle buys Colgan and Mesaba with money loaned from Delta with an interest rate of 12-13 cents on the dollar. #FAIL

3. Pinnacle files Chapter 11 and then accepts DIP financing from Delta with another ridiculous interest rate because Pinnacle barely has cash on hand to run its day to day operations #FAIL

4. Once again it falls on PILOTS to fall on the sword for management's failures. They overwhelmingly (85%) vote in a TA that cuts pay, cuts QOL, furloughs more than half of the group, and takes responsibility for Pinnacles bad business....while their CEO took a HUGE pay raise last year. #FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL

Originally Posted by LarryDavid (Post 1330855)

It is easy to tell someone how to vote until you are actually in their shoes. Guys saying that you can make more at home depot or on unemployment are full of rubish. Unless you have prior experience almost any job you get will be starting at the bottom for like $10-15/hr.

If anything what has been going on at the regionals is just a lesson to always leave yourself with outs. Even if you never have to go through what the 9E guys did you may still lose your medical. It should be the cardnial rule. Always have a plan b and heck even a plan c and d. The majors went through it in the 2000s, all regional guys are next. Now it is United's turn to dangle the carrots. US Air and american are probably close behind. There really needs to be a flying the line Vol.3 written about all this horse crap.

Originally Posted by MyMamma (Post 1330644)

I wonder how smooth and efficient the operation is going to run especially after everyone realizes they have been had.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1331182)

At Delta, Pinnacle, Epressjet, SkyWest, Republic, Alaska or GoJets?

The number of pilots screwed by this deal is ... well, pretty much everybody.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1331182)

The number of pilots screwed by this deal is ... well, pretty much everybody.

Originally Posted by Noseeums (Post 1331277)

You all accepted jobs at your own respective garbage carriers for $18 - $25/hr. Have a look in the mirror.

Originally Posted by flyboy32 (Post 1331145)

And don't forget that this is what you get when your UNION is just a dues collecting agency and does nothing to support better work conditions and better wages.

PATHETIC... How many other jobs did this deal affect in other places around the company....

Cowards.