Originally Posted by MyMamma

I wonder how smooth and efficient the operation is going to run especially after everyone realizes they have been had.

Originally Posted by marlonmoneda1

It's annoying to see everybody ridiculing and blaming Pinnacle pilots for the TA being being passed. In the airline pilot profession, specifically the regionals, pilots have literally zero power, because its not their branded flying. Delta purposely built language in there secret CPAs so that they have back door exits to get out of contracts or manipulate the company enough to have much less money than it planned on having.

This reminds me of the Satellite dish service guy that said it would be $39.99 a month, but when the bill came it was $80.00 or more. You planned on a certain amount, but in the fine print language interpretation you realize they can do what they want.

Throw on top of that gross mismanagement and the RLA and what choices with which are the pinnacle pilots left? You are only worth what you can negotiate, and unfortunately due to industry laws, supply and demand, and pocketbook, DELTA is in control. At least for now. A lot of companies in wide ranging industries all over the country know that right now they can get away with treating their employees like crap because the economy is down and many in the labor force do not have many options to do anything about their bad treatment. However as history shows, everything goes in cycles, and following periods where companies treat people like ****, are periods where employees have all the leverage, force higher wages, and jump around the next highest paying job while the company eats the turds. I would even go as far as saying most people in the workforce would leave their job for a better paying job in a second despite how well a previous employer treated them, which is part of the modern phenomenon of employees not staying with the same company their whole life any more (and why people dont stay married anymore).

Instead of saying how weak pinnacle pilots are, pehaps give condolences for their loss. For everybodys loss in this profession. Lord knows your regional carrier is probably next on the chopping block, and you too will see how powerless you really are.

Originally Posted by marlonmoneda1

It's annoying to see everybody ridiculing and blaming Pinnacle pilots for the TA being being passed. In the airline pilot profession, specifically the regionals, pilots have literally zero power, because its not their branded flying. Delta purposely built language in there secret CPAs so that they have back door exits to get out of contracts or manipulate the company enough to have much less money than it planned on having.

This reminds me of the Satellite dish service guy that said it would be $39.99 a month, but when the bill came it was $80.00 or more. You planned on a certain amount, but in the fine print language interpretation you realize they can do what they want.

Throw on top of that gross mismanagement and the RLA and what choices with which are the pinnacle pilots left? You are only worth what you can negotiate, and unfortunately due to industry laws, supply and demand, and pocketbook, DELTA is in control. At least for now. A lot of companies in wide ranging industries all over the country know that right now they can get away with treating their employees like crap because the economy is down and many in the labor force do not have many options to do anything about their bad treatment. However as history shows, everything goes in cycles, and following periods where companies treat people like ****, are periods where employees have all the leverage, force higher wages, and jump around the next highest paying job while the company eats the turds. I would even go as far as saying most people in the workforce would leave their job for a better paying job in a second despite how well a previous employer treated them, which is part of the modern phenomenon of employees not staying with the same company their whole life any more (and why people dont stay married anymore).

Instead of saying how weak pinnacle pilots are, pehaps give condolences for their loss. For everybodys loss in this profession. Lord knows your regional carrier is probably next on the chopping block, and you too will see how powerless you really are.

Originally Posted by RgrMurdock

I'm just surprised it passed by an overwhelming majority. I would've guessed maybe 60% ish. I'm not trying to categorize just pilots from pinnacle here but I think it is interesting that a lot of regional pilots blame the majors for giving away every regional airplane but then we have an instance like this. I understand that delta was threatening liquidation but they always threaten during a strike. And just look at comair who were promised a bail out and then closed anyway.

Originally Posted by seafeye

Our power is our vote. You just decided to tell management that you are happy (80%) with the TA.
I would rather have seen 0% turnout.
Wear your Delta lanyards with pride.

Originally Posted by Tinpusher007

Are you trying to be funny or are you just incredibly ignorant??? How is a powerful vote to lose one's job powerful at all?

Originally Posted by seafeye

Sometimes it's best to be put down than to suffer for a couple more years.