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Old 01-30-2013 | 08:18 AM
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Good Lord that sounds awful!! Why would anyone want to work there under these conditions? F that!
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Old 01-30-2013 | 08:58 AM
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Maybe Canada is on to something......

720.21 Flight Crew Members on Reserve

The standards for compliance with this section are:

(1) An air operator shall provide each flight crew member with an opportunity to obtain at least 8 consecutive hours sleep in any 24 consecutive hours while on reserve by one of the following methods:

(a) the air operator shall provide the flight crew member with 24 hours notice of the time of commencement and duration of the rest period. The designated rest period cannot shift more than 3 hours earlier or later than the preceding rest period, nor more than a total of 8 hours in any 7 consecutive days;

(b) the flight crew member shall be given a minimum of 10 hours notice of the assignment and shall not be assigned any duty for these 10 hours; or

(c) the air operator shall not assign the flight crew member to flight duty time and shall not interrupt the flight crew member's rest period between 22:00 and 06:00 local time.

(2) Where an air operator is unable to provide a flight crew member with a rest period required by subsection (1) and the flight crew member is notified to report for flight duty or the reporting time occurs between 22:00 and 06:00 local time:

(a) the maximum flight duty time shall be 10 consecutive hours; and

(b) the subsequent minimum rest period shall be increased by at least one-half the length of the preceding flight duty time.
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Old 01-30-2013 | 10:00 AM
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What made commuting to reserve so intolerable for me, was our outstation basing. I was in CMH for much of it. Trips start early in the morning and finish close to midnight. Often I had a 6 day stretch of RSV where I had to fly in the night before and fly out the day after. A 6 day on, 1 day off, 6 day on with no commutability is the absolute worste.

They also seem to load up the first few days of reserve and keep you sitting the last day or two. Usually your RSV sequence is adjusted to a later time for proper rest, so you can't get home the last night. I can only think of a few times CS released me from RSV early. We are never properly staffed to afford that.

RSV wouldn't be so bad here if we had hub basing and proper staffing. Alas...
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Old 01-30-2013 | 11:31 AM
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Good Lord that sounds awful!! Why would anyone want to work there under these conditions? F that!
My thoughts exactly. Most of them will do anything to stay flying. Declare bankruptcy, work under the worst contracts with deplorable pay and rules, and consider it part of the process of "paying dues." All in hopes of reacing a glorius career at a mainline, which quite possibly could not happen.
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Old 01-30-2013 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by N2Core
My thoughts exactly. Most of them will do anything to stay flying. Declare bankruptcy, work under the worst contracts with deplorable pay and rules, and consider it part of the process of "paying dues." All in hopes of reacing a glorius career at a mainline, which quite possibly could not happen.
And just which glorious establishment is it that you proudly get to hang your hat at?
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Old 01-30-2013 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
And just which glorious establishment is it that you proudly get to hang your hat at?
F9 B-tch!!!!
If anybody takes this seriously then you are a tool. Having fun here.

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Old 01-30-2013 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Oskeewowow
What made commuting to reserve so intolerable for me, was our outstation basing. I was in CMH for much of it. Trips start early in the morning and finish close to midnight. Often I had a 6 day stretch of RSV where I had to fly in the night before and fly out the day after. A 6 day on, 1 day off, 6 day on with no commutability is the absolute worste.

They also seem to load up the first few days of reserve and keep you sitting the last day or two. Usually your RSV sequence is adjusted to a later time for proper rest, so you can't get home the last night. I can only think of a few times CS released me from RSV early. We are never properly staffed to afford that.

RSV wouldn't be so bad here if we had hub basing and proper staffing. Alas...
Seriously, you're commuting on reserve and complaining about it? Nobody should ever commute on reserve or even a line. If you do that too yourself we don't want to hear you complain about it. Part of accepting an airline career is having to move around a few times.
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Old 01-30-2013 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bolo
F9 B-tch!!!!
If anybody takes this seriously then you are a tool. Having fun here.
I can take it serious or not... wont change the fact I am a tool! Now off to get a sick tribal tat!
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Old 01-30-2013 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Karma
Seriously, you're commuting on reserve and complaining about it? Nobody should ever commute on reserve or even a line. If you do that too yourself we don't want to hear you complain about it. Part of accepting an airline career is having to move around a few times.
Really? Just tell that to those Denver guys. I am sure they would love to hear your keen insight into the dynamics of the regional airline base structure.
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Old 01-30-2013 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Karma
Seriously, you're commuting on reserve and complaining about it? Nobody should ever commute on reserve or even a line. If you do that too yourself we don't want to hear you complain about it. Part of accepting an airline career is having to move around a few times.
Absolutely the worst thing you can do in this career is move around chasing the job.
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