Logbooks & Roster....
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Hey guys,
I'm wondering what you're using for *ELECTRONIC* logbooks? Is everything valid as long as it's printed and binded for interviews?
Rosters.... at the regionals (in paticular PNCL/TSA) Do you have like a website that you can print it off, or basically, my question is - how do you check it AT HOME?...
Thx!
-schone
I'm wondering what you're using for *ELECTRONIC* logbooks? Is everything valid as long as it's printed and binded for interviews?
Rosters.... at the regionals (in paticular PNCL/TSA) Do you have like a website that you can print it off, or basically, my question is - how do you check it AT HOME?...
Thx!
-schone
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There are many ways to do this.
When e-logbooks first came out, some airlines didn't like them (for hiring) because they believed the old paper logbooks were a window into your soul (neatness, coffee stains etc). I don't think that any airline would have a problem with e-logbook printouts today. At my last interview I just printed and stapled. Obviously you still have your original paper logbooks w/ endorsements and all that.
There are several ways for an airline guy to do it...
I use the little paper crew logbooks and manually enter each each leg. I have plenty of time to do this enroute, and this serves as my 121-required on-board logbook for duty time, etc. Then I transfer this to my e-logbook, usually while on layover somewhere, so it's not cutting into to my time at home. I still keep the paper logbooks, every GA flight gets it's own entry, and then I do a single monthly summary entry for 121 flying. This way my paper book totals up correctly, but I still have all the daily details electronically if needed.
A more advanced version of this is to use a palm-pilot as your 121 crew logbook, and manually enter in your legs. The you can just upload this into your e-logbook when you get home and avoid double-data entry.
The slickest system of all is to download your monthly schedules from the company scheduling system into your palm-pilot at the beginning of the month. This does two things:
1) You have your shedule handy
2) Since many legs will have on-time departures, all you have to do is manually change any times that do not match the scheduled times. At the end of the month you can upload the palm-pilot data (corrected for actual vice scheduled times) to your e-logbook.
Many companies have a system where you can download your entire schedule at month-end, with actual times. You could then upload this directly into your e-logbook with no data entry at all. Two potential issues here:
1) Is your company's data correct? A few carriers actually manually falsify times in their scheduling system to improve on-time performance and crew utilization. Also mistakes can happen anywhere.
2) You would still need an on-board 121 crew logbook. One easy way to do this is carry a printout of your weekly schedule, and just pen-and-ink the actual times.
I'm going to the palm-pilot thing eventually.
When e-logbooks first came out, some airlines didn't like them (for hiring) because they believed the old paper logbooks were a window into your soul (neatness, coffee stains etc). I don't think that any airline would have a problem with e-logbook printouts today. At my last interview I just printed and stapled. Obviously you still have your original paper logbooks w/ endorsements and all that.
There are several ways for an airline guy to do it...
I use the little paper crew logbooks and manually enter each each leg. I have plenty of time to do this enroute, and this serves as my 121-required on-board logbook for duty time, etc. Then I transfer this to my e-logbook, usually while on layover somewhere, so it's not cutting into to my time at home. I still keep the paper logbooks, every GA flight gets it's own entry, and then I do a single monthly summary entry for 121 flying. This way my paper book totals up correctly, but I still have all the daily details electronically if needed.
A more advanced version of this is to use a palm-pilot as your 121 crew logbook, and manually enter in your legs. The you can just upload this into your e-logbook when you get home and avoid double-data entry.
The slickest system of all is to download your monthly schedules from the company scheduling system into your palm-pilot at the beginning of the month. This does two things:
1) You have your shedule handy
2) Since many legs will have on-time departures, all you have to do is manually change any times that do not match the scheduled times. At the end of the month you can upload the palm-pilot data (corrected for actual vice scheduled times) to your e-logbook.
Many companies have a system where you can download your entire schedule at month-end, with actual times. You could then upload this directly into your e-logbook with no data entry at all. Two potential issues here:
1) Is your company's data correct? A few carriers actually manually falsify times in their scheduling system to improve on-time performance and crew utilization. Also mistakes can happen anywhere.
2) You would still need an on-board 121 crew logbook. One easy way to do this is carry a printout of your weekly schedule, and just pen-and-ink the actual times.
I'm going to the palm-pilot thing eventually.
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I have a "e-logbook" that consists simply of an excel spreadsheet that I created. It looks like a Jepp logbook and calculates each column for printing (on 8.5x11 paper). I sign each page, then slip them into a 3-ring binder in plastic sheet protectors.
I enter individual flights at the end of each trip from a paper mini-logbook that I keep at work.
I enter individual flights at the end of each trip from a paper mini-logbook that I keep at work.
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