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DryMotorBoatin 02-12-2013 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by EatMyPropwash (Post 1350667)
I'm wondering why it's taken 14 pages to say "admit all the **** you did, and move on" ... How hard was that...


You clearly haven't been around APC long.

mooney 02-12-2013 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by EatMyPropwash (Post 1350667)
I'm wondering why it's taken 14 pages to say "admit all the **** you did, and move on" ... How hard was that...


start a thread that says "thank you flight XXXX for blinding me with your strobes as you rotated last night" and you'll be even more shocked :D

FDX8891 02-12-2013 06:29 AM

Just be honest people.

Baxter 02-12-2013 07:31 AM

61.153(c)...

rickair7777 02-12-2013 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1350583)
Is it bad to tell them you had a significant personal distraction that affected your performance (death in the family, wife left you, ect)? Or does that make it worse by sounding like an excuse? I busted a recurrent ride years ago because I should have called down and rescheduled but instead I tried to brave it and try and get it over with. Big mistake.


Originally Posted by APCLurker (Post 1350591)
Sounding like an excuse may not be what makes it worse in that case. Wondering about poor judgement may. The interviewer's thought process could turn to: "would he still come in to work a flight in that situation if he did it for a checkride?"


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1350596)
I had the exact same thought, but then the learning point would have been he learned NOT to be complacent in such situations and to say 'enough' when the limit has been reached instead of trying to tough it out.


IMO it would be OK to discuss such a situation as long as you parlay that into a lesson learned. But don't make up a bogus sob-story that might get exposed for what it is...

NCR757dxr 02-13-2013 02:49 PM

What The H*ll Am I Reading....
 

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1349995)
One or two busts isn't too bad, it's the people with 4 or more busts that are problem childs that shouldn't be doing this job.

I failed my CFI ride twice; the most subjective checkride out there. That makes me a bad pilot because of it? I should just give up because of it? A lot of ridiculous crap comes out of peoples mouths sometimes. Saying 4 checkride busts is a career ender and that someone just isn't cut out for the job is remarkably stupid. BUT that is the crap people like this have been force feed by the media and HR, so I really can't fault them.

If all the 4/5 bust guys are locked out of jobs (like they usually are), then that doesn't bode well for all the pilot error related incidents/accidents. In theory, all those guys/gals were "clean" in the eyes of the almighty HR department :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by EatMyPropwash (Post 1350667)
I'm wondering why it's taken 14 pages to say "admit all the **** you did, and move on" ... How hard was that...

You obviously didn't read 13 of the pages, it is in there.....

Cruz5350 02-13-2013 03:11 PM

Disclosing Checkride Busts
 
4 isn't a career ender its just going to be very very very hard to overcome case in point I'm living proof.

USMCFLYR 02-13-2013 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by NCR757dxr (Post 1351949)
I failed my CFI ride twice; the most subjective checkride out there. That makes me a bad pilot because of it? I should just give up because of it? A lot of ridiculous crap comes out of peoples mouths sometimes. Saying 4 checkride busts is a career ender and that someone just isn't cut out for the job is remarkably stupid. BUT that is the crap people like this have been force feed by the media and HR, so I really can't fault them.

If all the 4/5 bust guys are locked out of jobs (like they usually are), then that doesn't bode well for all the pilot error related incidents/accidents. In theory, all those guys/gals were "clean" in the eyes of the almighty HR department :rolleyes:


You obviously didn't read 13 of the pages, it is in there.....

If you want to make likewise ridiculous comments like that then you might as well admit that if the 4 or 5 checkride bust pilots were flying in great numbers at the airlines then we would obviously have a much higher accident rate then right?
It kind of defeats your purpose to point out a leading post just to make your own similarly leading post :confused:

NCR757dxr 02-13-2013 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1352028)
If you want to make likewise ridiculous comments like that then you might as well admit that if the 4 or 5 checkride bust pilots were flying in great numbers at the airlines then we would obviously have a much higher accident rate then right?
It kind of defeats your purpose to point out a leading post just to make your own similarly leading post :confused:

You are right..... just stooping to their level is all. Just showing that anyone can make ridiculous/inflammatory comments on an anonymous forum ;)

DakBroadbent 02-18-2013 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1350016)
Not if you don't work at one of dem der fancy regionals. $45k is pretty average lol prolly because they hire those multiple checkride bust guys.

Imagine my relief to learn I work for a 'fancy regional!'


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