That was a very, very poor choice of words on my part. And right now, in this moment, I want to apologize to everyone.

What I DO understand is having the dream to do something you love more than just about anything and getting paid to do it.

It's just a damn shame that the suits who employ you guys know it and can make you put up with ungodly crap for it.

I'm sorry for my poor choice of words. I surely love to fly, and I love airplanes....same as you guys. Maybe I should just be thankful that I don't love 'em enough to put up with what you guys have to put up with.

Silver and Commutair have relatively quick upgrades but you won't see $70/hr for a long time hopefully never as those guys can maybe make it to greener pastures.

Accepted. You have to understand the entire airline industry has been in a nose dive since 911. When I was hired at my regional in 07 I was expecting to be on captain pay in 1.5 years. Next stop delta, united etc. All of us did. Then, age 65 came. If I knew in 07 that id be on fo pay for the next 5.5 years maybe I wouldve looked into other opportunities, but my crystal ball is broken so here I am. What im trying to say is that we dont lack self respect. We did not sign up for the way our careers have unfolded thus far. It just happened that way. However, im not just going to quit my 50k/year, 14 days off/month job now. I have bills.

That figure does include perdiem. More like mid 40s actually.

9E's 6th year CA pay for CRJ-200 is $68.31/hr. Right now, the scale goes from a hypothetical 1st year CA rate of 58.92/hr to the top max rate 12th year at 81.55/hr. This max rate for the 50 seater is actually lower than the 12th year max rate under 9E's 1999 contract.

New bankruptcy rates? Thats a shame. Im going to venture a guess and say they did not sign up that either.

They got to vote on the concessions, and 85% voted yes to those rates.

I understand. And thank you.

I'll say just one more thing and then I'll shut up <----which I should have done before I ever began posting on this thread.

There isn't an airplane I have ever flown on that I didn't stop to thank the flight crew before I got off, unless they were already gone because I was assigned a seat right next to the crapper on the last row in back and I was the last man off.

I hope every one of you guys makes it to the seat you've always wanted, and most of you deserve, after all the hellacious BS you've had to deal with.

When I was a boy, people dressed up to get on an airplane to travel and flight crews were truly appreciated. And I'll kiss your *** if our society has "progressed" to a better time than they were back then.

Sorry for the threadjack.

Im not going to speculate on their thinking when it came to voting on that. How would I vote? No. I also voted no on the 900 rates we have at psa today (no 900s ofcourse). However, Im not going to judge those guys for their vote. Its theirs after all to cast any way they like, and I dont work there. I work here.

Since 9-11? This industry was screwed up waaaaay before that...