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meyers9163 03-20-2013 03:41 AM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1375428)
not to be a Richard cranium, but the guys with busts would just be a bandaid on the problem, they really are a small % of pilots applying to regionals. The litigation trade off of hiring them is just not worth it. Colgan is why.

How long have you been in the 121 world? A bust doesn't matter to many.... A history does..... Someone can have a bad day.... Guess not everyone is you..... And to correlate this person to Colgan is just an insult to him and many...... Have some class....

By the way.... I know a guy who busted two 121 PCs.... Maybe more in a previous life.... FO and no TPIC..... Hired at USairways..... Then quit a few moths back and in this same year UAL hired him...... Guess it must really have hurt his chances....

Also just confirmed a formee gojets DUI guy got on with one of the above too..... Not saying I'd want either on my records but for AE to turn their nose to a PPL oral bust or a CSEL practical bust says more about AE then an applicant...... No ones perfect.

eaglefly 03-20-2013 05:47 AM

Eagle may just be turning away candidates they don't want. Even though Eagle may be desperate, I don't think it means they'll take everyone. Concern with PRIA type stuff might be stronger at Eagle though as before the Colgan accident and those issues, another airline had a disturbing similar accident with all the same issues and was the accident that resulted in PRIA. That airline WAS an American Eagle operator.

450knotOffice 03-20-2013 05:55 AM

It WAS a wholly owned operator - Flagship Airlines - which later was one of the four wholly owned AE carriers to be merged into the present AE. AE has a particular aversion to bust partly because it was one of THEIR captains that failed to disclose busts in his previous flying life and who later crashed a perfectly good Jetstream into the forest. PRIA came about as a result of that accident. I was an FO at AE at the time and remember it well.

buddies8 03-20-2013 07:17 AM

i guess that female md-11 f/o at fedex was a non issue with all her previous busts in crosswind landings. maybe that is why she crashed an md-11 in a mild crosswind day.

AvSec 03-20-2013 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 1375650)
It WAS a wholly owned operator - Flagship Airlines - which later was one of the four wholly owned AE carriers to be merged into the present AE. AE has a particular aversion to bust partly because it was one of THEIR captains that failed to disclose busts in his previous flying life and who later crashed a perfectly good Jetstream into the forest. PRIA came about as a result of that accident. I was an FO at AE at the time and remember it well.

I was an SD3 captain there when it happened. Remember it well.

D B Cooper 03-20-2013 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1375037)
Oh hey, another thread on Eagle.

Are they desperate? They just announced that they will give TWO free round trip tickets for a student and parent to go visit a school offering a degree in aviation.

American Airlines & American Eagle are proud to sponsor the Dallas/Fort Worth Focus on the Future sessions for students and parents and a Regional Airline Pilot Job Fair for qualified pilots. All CFIs are invited. As part of their goal to offer additional opportunities for students seeking a career as a pilot, American Airlines and American Eagle are providing two free round-trip tickets for a student and parent to visit a college or university offering professional pilot degrees.

That's cool, American offered me a round trip ticket from LGA to MIA to cover some flying complete with a hotel on the beach. I don't know any other airline that would do that. ;)

ASAsig 03-20-2013 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by props4ever (Post 1375322)
Not desperate enough. Got over 3k hours pic turbine, but because of two check ride failures no dice. Even went to the job fair to discuss this. Until they let go of unrealistic expectations.... They will have problems.

I think you're issue is you'll jump ship in 6 months when Delta or United start calling. They don't want to invest in someone if they won't get their money back.

I have two busts and was offered a job at every airline I interviewed at including AE. Maybe I just interview well, but of the 14 that showed up to interview at AE that day, only 3 of us made the cut.

Oh yea, at the time I had approx 700 hours and no TPIC.

snippercr 03-20-2013 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by ASAsig (Post 1375744)
I think you're issue is you'll jump ship in 6 months when Delta or United start calling. They don't want to invest in someone if they won't get their money back.

I have two busts and was offered a job at every airline I interviewed at including AE. Maybe I just interview well, but of the 14 that showed up to interview at AE that day, only 3 of us made the cut.

Oh yea, at the time I had approx 700 hours and no TPIC.

Out of curiosity, were they 121 busts? AE tends to be very picky on the subject of checkride failures - especially part 121 failures.

ASAsig 03-20-2013 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1375749)
Out of curiosity, were they 121 busts? AE tends to be very picky on the subject of checkride failures - especially part 121 failures.

Nope, not 121 or 135 rides, which could be why I got to the interview.

buddies8 03-20-2013 08:09 AM

dont worry, ae likes to bust 50% in training, this way you do have a 121 bust and difficult to move elsewhere. been a practice here for the last 5 years.


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