soon it will be four years if the 824 do as they talk, bravado.

 

That's a big IF....

 

Could be even less if the 824 isn't metered to tightly.

 

remember they didnt hire for two years, they are getting into 07 with a 6 year upgrade, it will take some time as they hired alot in 07 into 08, but mid/early 08 it stopped till 2010. So when they get through 08, which is 5 years, it will drop. With the 824 it COULD be early next year they are through 08. If that were the case, it would drop to a 4 year upgrade and we did not hire many in 2010, the next big chunk was 11. I think by next summer it drops a good amount.

Until the next turd sandwich comes of course. However there is a reason they are packing the classes right now. They could hire 500 by this time next summer, looking back to the start of this year, that is a good amount of upgrades, esp with us being fat on FOs right now.

Just playing a what if game, but IF the 824 goes, and goes at the expected rate, the upgrade time is going to plummet, esp with United hiring and Delta getting ready to get back into it, as well as AA.

 

PBS is a done deal and that will eliminate all the extra pay for no flying across the board. Now you've got 6-year Captains, which is competitive. There's only one other place that's uncompetitive as I have said many times and its senior captain compensation. Even with Letter 3 attrition and the 824, there will still be many hundreds (500 ?) of high-cost senior captains close to or topped out on pay and getting dollar-for-dollar 401(k) matching, now or in the near future. Parker won't support that and that is their bulls-eye. It's really the only place left to gut. It's a virtual certainty, that will be the ultimatum for a fleet plan and more larger aircraft.

This really shouldn't be a surprise as its been coming for several years. It's all they used to talk about, but knew they couldn't get it from a judge (hence the reason there never was an 1113 for Eagle pilots) and knew they would have to use leverage outside of a courtroom. Well, here comes that leverage..........

 

The contract calls for a longevity adjustment in less than 3 years, calculated for CA and FO individually. So whomever stays at Eagle will likely give up pay steps in a few years.

 

F this place and management along with the union. burn it.

 

Agreed, but that's with the current fleet. However, pay-to-play will return sooner and the ultimatum given will be fly cheaper or growth goes elsewhere. 1990's whipsawing is back.

 

thats when my flights will be all late to make up for the paycut. as the wheel keeps on turning.

 

Pay to pay!?!? They can't get enought people at the regionals while offering bonuses.

Even if they re fleet the adjustment will take place on seniority basis only, the pay rates are not part of the adjustment and a 76 seater at eagle would be flown for 65 seat wages. AMR has the ammunition to adjust the longevity at eagle to the lowest two regionals with 150 aircraft or so. So with pinnacle having only a 12 year step and republic likely to have the least amount if lifers out of all the larger regionals the current contract allows AMR to have likely the lowest captain cost as far as senior folks go.