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Old 04-10-2013 | 11:50 AM
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And I would love another option other than airways. Always been treated much better off line. Unfortunately, im pretty limited getting to CLT.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fullflank
My point is that for those of us who commute, under the current us airways program, this is a paycut. Plain and simple. Hopefully it wont survive the merger and we can have the current airways (better) program.
You have more than five years with your company (PSA), right? You would NOT be charged. After five years seniority, coach fares are waived. You're good to go.

Whatever we get, we get. I'm hoping to hang onto the AMR system, and from what I'm reading, we probably will. It's really not a bad system.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
I screwed that up. I gave you the much higher D3 rates. My bad. The Employee/spouse rates for LAX to LHR are:

First class - $119.20 (fee is 100)
Business class - $79.20 (fee is 60)
Coach class - $54.20 (fee is 35)
I assume these are ONE way figures?
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Old 04-10-2013 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mjpilot
I assume these are ONE way figures?
Yes. One way. A bit more to return to the US.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
You have more than five years with your company (PSA), right? You would NOT be charged. After five years seniority, coach fares are waived. You're good to go.

Whatever we get, we get. I'm hoping to hang onto the AMR system, and from what I'm reading, we probably will. It's really not a bad system.
Yes more than 5 years with psa, but it seems that those who cant afford an extra expense (Jr fos) will be getting hit with one. What can one expect to spend per month with one leg commute? An extra $100?
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Old 04-10-2013 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fullflank
Yes more than 5 years with psa, but it seems that those who cant afford an extra expense (Jr fos) will be getting hit with one. What can one expect to spend per month with one leg commute? An extra $100?
Admittedly, it's the one aspect I consider unfair. Those LEAST able to afford it are the only ones charged. Seems wrong to me. If I had my way, nobody would be charged for a coach seat.

Overall, though, it's a good system.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 12:24 PM
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If they could adopt the free coach system from airways, and keep everything else the same, that would be ideal.
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Old 04-10-2013 | 01:47 PM
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cool, thanks for the example fares....and commuting always costs more than living in station whether or not your paying for your crash pad or hotel room for a night, or $10 for the seat.......so...just another reason to live where you work....
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Old 04-10-2013 | 02:14 PM
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Yes, it's crappy we pay first 5 years. Nobody likes how offline can go free and our people don't.. BUT, it's still WELL worth it for the listing priority we get with the check in times being first come first serve, and D1 ability. I travel international a lot, and it's easy for me to always get #1 or #2 on the standby list and actually get on every flight with my registered companion, rather than being stranded in some foreign country because I was number 87 on standby behind some ramper's cousin and their 12 kids, like I see on UAL and Delta all the time.

Fee goes away after 5 years anyway.. and if you are in the cockpit it's always FREE. Asking for the cockpit jumpseat gets you around the fee if they are wiling to do it. Whenever I commuted before my 5 years was up, I just avoided Eagle/AA most of the time, unless I absolutely needed the priority to get on (like on a weather day), then I'd gladly pay the $10 over getting stranded overnight. Now after my 5 years is up, it's been fantastic. I don't pay for coach, my companion doesn't pay, my parents don't pay.. I always have the potential ability to get priority over a 30yr AA pilot "on their own airplane" if I am good with the system or they could do the same on my airplane as well. I have never ridden in anything other than Business or First on countless international AA flights due to the priority I can get. There is no better at any regional IMO. Changing it to the way others do it would be the dumbest thing ever.

People on the outside are just looking at it the wrong way.. yes a junior guy gets charged "a little". ($7-13) domestic.. but where else will a JUNIOR regional pilot have the ability to get TOP priority on the standby list, even over the mainline people?? It's a trade-off. Well worth it too IMO.. pay $10 and get on, or go free with some other system and wait around the airport all day/night because your listing priority sucks..

When you are standing at the gate for the last flight home of the day on AA in Tokyo and there is only 2 seats available and 19 standby's on the list, trust me, you will LOVE our system (if you actually planned ahead 24hrs). Plus, $10 non-rev fee to get home after a 4 day for a new-hire is still cheaper than buying a hotel room and losing a night off at home because you didn't have the priority to get on with some other system..

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Old 04-10-2013 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
Yes it's stupid we pay first 5 years. But it's WELL worth it for the listing priority we get with the check in times. I travel international a lot, and it's easy for me to always get #1 or #2 on the standby list and actually get on every flight with my registered companion, rather than being stranded in some foreign country because I was number 87 on standby behind some ramper's cousin and their 12 kids, like I see on UAL and Delta all the time.

Fee goes away after 5 years anyway.. and if you are in the cockpit it's always FREE. Asking for the cockpit jumpseat gets you around the fee if they are wiling to do it. Whenever I commuted before my 5 years was up, I just avoided Eagle/AA most of the time, unless I absolutely needed the priority to get on (like on a weather day), then I'd gladly pay the $10 over getting stranded overnight. Now after my 5 years is up, it's fantastic. There is no better at any regional.

When you are standing at the gate for the last flight home of the day on AA and there is only 2 seats available and 19 standby's on the list, trust me, you will like our system (if you actually planned ahead 24hrs). $10 non-rev fee for a new-hire is still cheaper than buying a hotel room and losing a night off at home because you didn't have the priority to get on with some other system..
I agree. At this point I will pay 11.33 and get to where I need then be stuck in ORD. But I do too generally avoid AA/AE unless its vacation with my RC or D2p's. I'm counting down to 5 years unless we dont make it that long ha ha. Even with it, our travel is second to none at this point. I cant count the amount of times I've seen 30+ on non rev lists on DAL and all the top 10 or 15 have 1988 or earlier DOH. Unreal.
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