And the Winner is... SKW... (gets Ejets)
 

And the winner is.... SKW!!!


But there are 40 airplanes that SKW just bought, still don't know about the 30 that United acquired.

United to Add 40 More Embraer 76-Seat Aircraft to United Express Fleet - Yahoo! Finance

Well I thought it was going to be xjt but glad that there might be some movement in the ranks after a tough time for airlines that has lead to a long wait for upgrades. Window of opportunity to come to skw and possibly not have to sit reserve. I definitely recommend skw as a place to work. SKW is my second airline job so that's not just cheerleading.

I can't imagine why you thought good news or a new aircraft type would be announced at the red-headed stepchild of SKYW, Inc before OO.

Because xjt had their recent base announcements of DEN, MCI, IAD. Looked to be restructure for new type to me with a large mx base at MCI (tons of cheap hangars at MCI). But maybe I'm just a pessimist?

I can't imagine why you thought good news or a new aircraft type would be announced at the red-headed stepchild of SKYW, Inc before OO.[/QUOTE]

Because xjt had their recent base announcements of DEN, MCI, IAD. Looked to be restructure for new type to me with a large mx base at MCI (tons of cheap hangars at MCI). But maybe I'm just a pessimist?[/QUOTE]

That was clearly to make room for someone else.

I think United is shifting block hours for the XJT 50-seaters out of one of their busiest and most crowded hubs (ORD) to make room for larger RJs operated by OO and others. This would be not unlike the up-gauging in IAH when OO CRJs started operating there post-merger.

Well the 145 is cheaper to fly than the crj (from what I remember the 145 is quite a bit lighter) so I figured that the 145 was going to cover some downsizing (2/1 700's) on the crj200 fleet. Been sweating that situation for a while.

Why Go to Eagle?

I see what you did there. :D

Why go to Republic? :rolleyes:;)

Could this mean Skywest will soon resume hiring?

I'm not a kool aid drinker by any means, and a regional is after a regional. But like you, I've been around the block a bit before coming to SkyWest. I was actually VERY pessimistic about coming here, and from the start was just looking for an excuse to quit and go back to my former life of corporate or charter. But since the beginning, I've been treated with respect and have always been very impressed with the training.

The pay could always be better, but after first year pay, if you're a lineholder on the jet it's not bad. My take home pay has been significantly better than I ever planned on. I definitely want to move on from here ASAP, but at this point it would only be for a career position... A major, certain legacies, or a very good corporate job. Most charter and even a lot of corporate jobs would be a step backwards considering the combination of of pay and QOL I have here in my third year at SkyWest.

Am i understanding this correctly?

These are different airplanes than the 40 announced a few weeks ago?

That was 30 that united announced and yes they are separate. These are bought by Skywest Inc. The other 30 were bought by united.

So there is another 30 175's in play? I wonder, I wonder..............

Starting to look more and more like the first 30 United bought are going to Mesa.

Just out of curiosity, why would you think they wouldn't go to SKW?

Why would United put all 70 in the hands of just one carrier?

FWIW, one of our CPs said that he's hearing California Pacific is rumored to get the flying for the 30 E175s. Which could be interesting because they are still doing proving runs. He has heard from the one of the higher ups at TSH that we did not get the flying.

From this Republic guy, to the Skywest friends a big congrats..i would like to see us finding pilots now. :) better pay / better treatment of employees / better soft money.

I wish thess planes were flown by majors but then again, glad they went to better regional.

Exactly. The only reason new hires are going to RAH right now is because they want to get their hands on that E175.

Now that a respectable regional will be hiring into it, Republic are going to have a hard time attracting new applicants. (Unless of course they modify their E175's to include a 3rd lav!)

I think we all wish we would be flying these for majors with mainline senority numbers but that ship has sailed numerous times. Until the mainline guys decide to bring use onboard, make the best of it.

Not sure if my sarcasm meters working here?

But on the off chance you're serious....UAL is not going to give any flying to an "airline" which does not possess an operating cert and has never flown a single RPM :rolleyes:

Totally serious question...are new hires really so attracted to the E-175 over CRJs that they would base their employer preference on that? It's just a 70-ish seat RJ, it doesn't pay better than similar CRJs.

From a business perspective, it's a much nicer plane for the pax, but that has nothing to do with the pilots.

Yes, they're out there. I remember back around 2005, guys didn't want to go to Colgan or Mesa because they flew turbo props. Now its the 50 seat jet thats frowned upon. I have heard stories from friends at RAH that new hires have rejected class offeres for the ERJ and Q400 becuase they want to fly the E175. Its the only reason they apply there. Its certainly not for the work rules.

That's funny because I'm sure pilots currently on property will bid into 175s leaving new hires going to the bro or RJ. Maybe not at first but as soon as transition bids are opened up, I'd expect it.

When, if at all, would Skywest start hiring to staff these airplanes?

Yeah I knew about SJS and turboprops, but never imagined that one RJ would be consider better than another RJ because of it's configuration. Wow...toolishness to new heights.

There will be hiring unless we make some deal to return 200's on a one-for-one or two-for-one basis...but I think that would have been part of the package deal and announced up front.

Since the e-jets will likely go to transitions vice new-hires, they will need to bring new-hires on to replace folks leaving the EMB/CRJ for the e-jet. That would probably need to start hiring this summer to get online by fall. But it also depends on how many e-jets we take early in 2014... if it's only a handful, with most to follow later in 2014, then SKW might not need to hire until they really ramp up (six month lead to allow for two training events).

Highly unlikely that any new hires will see this aircraft at SkyWest for a while. Plenty of RJ and EMB pilots that will transition to it.

My question is where will they find sims to get people trained? The sims are so backlogged throughout the world (Yes, the entire world) that it will be hard to get training done unless they start building new sims now.

And from a oo pilot, wish they were mainline flying as well

I heard we are getting our own sims in Denver and Houston. Well see.

Those will have to be new sims being built because there are none there right now.

You read what Skippy wrote in his email:

"We have to keep the conversation open about ways we can become and stay competitive – because it will be up to us to decide if these aircraft become replacement flying or new growth"

Watch for the threats of parking airplanes unless we take a hit in Pay Negotiations this fall. Even though we got the planes on order they are going to use them as bait material for concessions.

What's the point of that mindset? I would be perfectly happy staying on my turboprop if it paid as well as the jet. The only reason I'll transition is for a pay raise. You can't beat most of the overnights on the Bro.

Unfortunately, I am serious. I also find it hard to believe that could be true. But if it is, my theory holds true. The cheapest ***** on the block gets the work.

The rumor I heard that what UAL was asking for rate wise was under all the submitted bids.

I also don't believe anyone under the VP level knows anything about how much their own companies bid was, let alone how much competing companies bid.

SKW will do that if needed.

If that's the case Great Lakes would be booming with business