Eagle state of the airline update
06-01-2013 | 09:32 PM
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06-01-2013 | 09:39 PM
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The bottom line is Doug Parker runs crappy, no frills, deadbeat airlines. He has no interest in bettering the onboard experience of a customer. He and US Airways have always been a money-grubbing airline.
Ride on DL or United and ride on US Airways and tell me which is a better experience. The US Airways peddling of the Mastercard or the Delta WiFi/Snack/Onboard TV/Movies.
Ride on DL or United and ride on US Airways and tell me which is a better experience. The US Airways peddling of the Mastercard or the Delta WiFi/Snack/Onboard TV/Movies.
06-01-2013 | 10:39 PM
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there will be metering to aa for the 824 and any pilot after them regardless of what f/o winkley says. in order not to meter they would have to be overstaffed by 500 pilots to ensure the flying is covered`at eagle.
want to take one of the two fms/fmc's out of the airplane, great now we have one mel'd and fly normal navigation and refuse/unable to take short cuts or direct routing burn the fuel. fuel monitoring, suck it all you want, it is going to get burned one way or another. therevwill be no savings.
fleet plan plan on 150, if they want more give it to skw, ejt or rah. as it is we are taking a couple of cities back from skw in lax because they cant carry the loads, and we are being forced to fly charter flights out of dfw to cover the ejt flying because they cant crew the flights and rah in chicago, well that is to start in august and is to be another amr cluster.
as for the original posting for this thread, what ever was posted was propaganda, what if's and maybes. sounds like a teenager trying to justify there stupidity, just plain amr bull.
question, if eagle is having difficulty hiring, which it is, explain to me why would not the other regionals not be in the same situation if not worse? the divesting of eagle flying will not be covered without extreme difficulty by other regionals.
eventually the mainlines will have to up the payments to the regional so they can pay regional pilots more just have the flying covered. mainline always has the option to do the flying itself, but is not.
pure f/o winkley, amr bull, the only positive in the original posting was winkley, garton and the rest of the stooges will be gone to the street.
want to take one of the two fms/fmc's out of the airplane, great now we have one mel'd and fly normal navigation and refuse/unable to take short cuts or direct routing burn the fuel. fuel monitoring, suck it all you want, it is going to get burned one way or another. therevwill be no savings.
fleet plan plan on 150, if they want more give it to skw, ejt or rah. as it is we are taking a couple of cities back from skw in lax because they cant carry the loads, and we are being forced to fly charter flights out of dfw to cover the ejt flying because they cant crew the flights and rah in chicago, well that is to start in august and is to be another amr cluster.
as for the original posting for this thread, what ever was posted was propaganda, what if's and maybes. sounds like a teenager trying to justify there stupidity, just plain amr bull.
question, if eagle is having difficulty hiring, which it is, explain to me why would not the other regionals not be in the same situation if not worse? the divesting of eagle flying will not be covered without extreme difficulty by other regionals.
eventually the mainlines will have to up the payments to the regional so they can pay regional pilots more just have the flying covered. mainline always has the option to do the flying itself, but is not.
pure f/o winkley, amr bull, the only positive in the original posting was winkley, garton and the rest of the stooges will be gone to the street.
06-02-2013 | 03:54 AM
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there will be metering to aa for the 824 and any pilot after them regardless of what f/o winkley says. in order not to meter they would have to be overstaffed by 500 pilots to ensure the flying is covered`at eagle.
want to take one of the two fms/fmc's out of the airplane, great now we have one mel'd and fly normal navigation and refuse/unable to take short cuts or direct routing burn the fuel. fuel monitoring, suck it all you want, it is going to get burned one way or another. therevwill be no savings.
fleet plan plan on 150, if they want more give it to skw, ejt or rah. as it is we are taking a couple of cities back from skw in lax because they cant carry the loads, and we are being forced to fly charter flights out of dfw to cover the ejt flying because they cant crew the flights and rah in chicago, well that is to start in august and is to be another amr cluster.
as for the original posting for this thread, what ever was posted was propaganda, what if's and maybes. sounds like a teenager trying to justify there stupidity, just plain amr bull.
question, if eagle is having difficulty hiring, which it is, explain to me why would not the other regionals not be in the same situation if not worse? the divesting of eagle flying will not be covered without extreme difficulty by other regionals.
eventually the mainlines will have to up the payments to the regional so they can pay regional pilots more just have the flying covered. mainline always has the option to do the flying itself, but is not.
pure f/o winkley, amr bull, the only positive in the original posting was winkley, garton and the rest of the stooges will be gone to the street.
want to take one of the two fms/fmc's out of the airplane, great now we have one mel'd and fly normal navigation and refuse/unable to take short cuts or direct routing burn the fuel. fuel monitoring, suck it all you want, it is going to get burned one way or another. therevwill be no savings.
fleet plan plan on 150, if they want more give it to skw, ejt or rah. as it is we are taking a couple of cities back from skw in lax because they cant carry the loads, and we are being forced to fly charter flights out of dfw to cover the ejt flying because they cant crew the flights and rah in chicago, well that is to start in august and is to be another amr cluster.
as for the original posting for this thread, what ever was posted was propaganda, what if's and maybes. sounds like a teenager trying to justify there stupidity, just plain amr bull.
question, if eagle is having difficulty hiring, which it is, explain to me why would not the other regionals not be in the same situation if not worse? the divesting of eagle flying will not be covered without extreme difficulty by other regionals.
eventually the mainlines will have to up the payments to the regional so they can pay regional pilots more just have the flying covered. mainline always has the option to do the flying itself, but is not.
pure f/o winkley, amr bull, the only positive in the original posting was winkley, garton and the rest of the stooges will be gone to the street.
As far as the single Fms. Well the other regionals do it, I have seen many CRJs running around with a single FMS in United colors. United and US Airways management are the cheapest, seems like American will follow.
06-03-2013 | 01:00 PM
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The regionals will have no trouble hiring. There are so many 50 seaters out there that will be retired, a bunch of them, and attrition can take care of staffing. The super senior guys aren't going anywhere, mid level guys will leave if they can. Eagle has this flowthrough but I am sure a lot of the lifers will stay there.
There will be no pilot shortage, well unless you want a job flying empty 50 seat erj/crjs to victorville and other boneyards. The other solution would be to allow captains to fly left or right seat which a lot of captains at all regionals would probably jump all over. In short there will be no pilot shortage anywhere. FOs are the main source of attrition right now not Captains. If Captains can fly as FOs that solves a lot of problems right there.
There will be no pilot shortage, well unless you want a job flying empty 50 seat erj/crjs to victorville and other boneyards. The other solution would be to allow captains to fly left or right seat which a lot of captains at all regionals would probably jump all over. In short there will be no pilot shortage anywhere. FOs are the main source of attrition right now not Captains. If Captains can fly as FOs that solves a lot of problems right there.
06-03-2013 | 06:51 PM
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The regionals will have no trouble hiring. There are so many 50 seaters out there that will be retired, a bunch of them, and attrition can take care of staffing. The super senior guys aren't going anywhere, mid level guys will leave if they can. Eagle has this flowthrough but I am sure a lot of the lifers will stay there.
There will be no pilot shortage, well unless you want a job flying empty 50 seat erj/crjs to victorville and other boneyards. The other solution would be to allow captains to fly left or right seat which a lot of captains at all regionals would probably jump all over. In short there will be no pilot shortage anywhere. FOs are the main source of attrition right now not Captains. If Captains can fly as FOs that solves a lot of problems right there.
There will be no pilot shortage, well unless you want a job flying empty 50 seat erj/crjs to victorville and other boneyards. The other solution would be to allow captains to fly left or right seat which a lot of captains at all regionals would probably jump all over. In short there will be no pilot shortage anywhere. FOs are the main source of attrition right now not Captains. If Captains can fly as FOs that solves a lot of problems right there.
06-03-2013 | 06:55 PM
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06-03-2013 | 07:57 PM
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Exactly. I always said, the company should get all FOs upgraded, once they need captains use the FOs with a pay override for that flights covered.
06-03-2013 | 08:04 PM
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That is a terrible idea.. instead of them upgrading full time CA's like they should, they would just keep even more people as low paid FO's and only use them as needed if they could do that. Screw that.
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