Captain Tony

It's superior to Spirit's in every way too.

aviatormjc

No one is going to quit. Most regional pilots are satisfied with their situations. That is why nothing will change.

Flight instructors are happy to fly a jet for $23/hr with benefits and a stable schedule because it will not be permanent. They will upgrade in 2-5 years and will either be a regional captain making $71/hr or move onto jetBlue, Spirit or Virgin America.

First Officer regional pay/life is terrible but it beats flight instructing.

JoeyMeatballs

Tony,

I actually thought that before I really read into Spirits contract, makes L-XJTs look like poo poo . I wish i made the push for Spirit a long time ago. In other news, I spoke to some MEC friends, TA IN 2-3 months, bout time.

Thunderpig

I find it interesting that there has to be a minimum at all...the market is going to pay what the market will pay and there is no one here who is forced to take anything. That is why capitalism works where no other system will. There is no single person or organization forcing anyone in here to fly...why assume that there should be some set ROI on whatever anyone has invested be it time or effort, most often both. Artists work for practically nothing because they love it then whine and complain that nobody "gets" their art, i.e. pays for it. Each person has their own intrinsic and extrinsic motivations to do this job...who are we to foist some unworkable solution on others who are not so inclined to make that choice? Working in this industry is much like a bad poker player staying at the table because they are "stuck"...you can always get up and leave and choose another path.

JamesNoBrakes

2yrs to majors? SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

Although that bit is laughably ridiculous, I agree with the first part, they are generally satisfied if they are working for those wages and not quitting or actively changing the game.

Apokleros

An upgrade time of roughly two years doesn't seem so bad frankly, even with the shoddy pay and QOL. Seven--or even heaven forbid--ten years will make anyone cringe, I believe.

There's a reason why some regionals are having hardship in finding pilots. I met a guy yesterday who told me he wants to get his sport pilot certificate and would have loved to fly professionally, but he can't because of the steep cost of training and the dirt-low pay.

There are definitely folks out there who are not happy with the way things currently stand, and have already quit or not even begun to take the steps to fly professionally owing to the status quo. T'is a shame, really.

USMCFLYR

Sounds like a guy that actually did a bit of research, might have actually believed in what others were telling him instead of believing the salesmen/businesses in the industry and made a wise move that many on this forum wish they had made.
Shame?

Mason32

Really; I see tons if folks flying to the US for treatment rather than wait two years for their turn... Or the ones coming here because they can't turn you away but CN deemed them too old to warrant the expense of the procedure.

Learn about their system and how it really works; not the press releases. Their system isn't to be emulated.