View Poll Results: Would you quit if everyone else was going to?
No. Wouldn't want to get involved.
43
39.45%
Yes. Anything to make this industry better.
66
60.55%
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If everyone would quit would you?
#42
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 193
No one is going to quit. Most regional pilots are satisfied with their situations. That is why nothing will change.
Flight instructors are happy to fly a jet for $23/hr with benefits and a stable schedule because it will not be permanent. They will upgrade in 2-5 years and will either be a regional captain making $71/hr or move onto jetBlue, Spirit or Virgin America.
First Officer regional pay/life is terrible but it beats flight instructing.
Flight instructors are happy to fly a jet for $23/hr with benefits and a stable schedule because it will not be permanent. They will upgrade in 2-5 years and will either be a regional captain making $71/hr or move onto jetBlue, Spirit or Virgin America.
First Officer regional pay/life is terrible but it beats flight instructing.
#43
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: A-320
Posts: 6,929
Tony,
I actually thought that before I really read into Spirits contract, makes L-XJTs look like poo poo . I wish i made the push for Spirit a long time ago. In other news, I spoke to some MEC friends, TA IN 2-3 months, bout time.
I actually thought that before I really read into Spirits contract, makes L-XJTs look like poo poo . I wish i made the push for Spirit a long time ago. In other news, I spoke to some MEC friends, TA IN 2-3 months, bout time.
#44
I find it interesting that there has to be a minimum at all...the market is going to pay what the market will pay and there is no one here who is forced to take anything. That is why capitalism works where no other system will. There is no single person or organization forcing anyone in here to fly...why assume that there should be some set ROI on whatever anyone has invested be it time or effort, most often both. Artists work for practically nothing because they love it then whine and complain that nobody "gets" their art, i.e. pays for it. Each person has their own intrinsic and extrinsic motivations to do this job...who are we to foist some unworkable solution on others who are not so inclined to make that choice? Working in this industry is much like a bad poker player staying at the table because they are "stuck"...you can always get up and leave and choose another path.
#45
No one is going to quit. Most regional pilots are satisfied with their situations. That is why nothing will change.
Flight instructors are happy to fly a jet for $23/hr with benefits and a stable schedule because it will not be permanent. They will upgrade in 2-5 years and will either be a regional captain making $71/hr or move onto jetBlue, Spirit or Virgin America.
First Officer regional pay/life is terrible but it beats flight instructing.
Flight instructors are happy to fly a jet for $23/hr with benefits and a stable schedule because it will not be permanent. They will upgrade in 2-5 years and will either be a regional captain making $71/hr or move onto jetBlue, Spirit or Virgin America.
First Officer regional pay/life is terrible but it beats flight instructing.
Although that bit is laughably ridiculous, I agree with the first part, they are generally satisfied if they are working for those wages and not quitting or actively changing the game.
#46
An upgrade time of roughly two years doesn't seem so bad frankly, even with the shoddy pay and QOL. Seven--or even heaven forbid--ten years will make anyone cringe, I believe.
There's a reason why some regionals are having hardship in finding pilots. I met a guy yesterday who told me he wants to get his sport pilot certificate and would have loved to fly professionally, but he can't because of the steep cost of training and the dirt-low pay.
There are definitely folks out there who are not happy with the way things currently stand, and have already quit or not even begun to take the steps to fly professionally owing to the status quo. T'is a shame, really.
There's a reason why some regionals are having hardship in finding pilots. I met a guy yesterday who told me he wants to get his sport pilot certificate and would have loved to fly professionally, but he can't because of the steep cost of training and the dirt-low pay.
There are definitely folks out there who are not happy with the way things currently stand, and have already quit or not even begun to take the steps to fly professionally owing to the status quo. T'is a shame, really.
#47
An upgrade time of roughly two years doesn't seem so bad frankly, even with the shoddy pay and QOL. Seven--or even heaven forbid--ten years will make anyone cringe, I believe.
There's a reason why some regionals are having hardship in finding pilots. I met a guy yesterday who told me he wants to get his sport pilot certificate and would have loved to fly professionally, but he can't because of the steep cost of training and the dirt-low pay.
There are definitely folks out there who are not happy with the way things currently stand, and have already quit or not even begun to take the steps to fly professionally owing to the status quo. T'is a shame, really.
There's a reason why some regionals are having hardship in finding pilots. I met a guy yesterday who told me he wants to get his sport pilot certificate and would have loved to fly professionally, but he can't because of the steep cost of training and the dirt-low pay.
There are definitely folks out there who are not happy with the way things currently stand, and have already quit or not even begun to take the steps to fly professionally owing to the status quo. T'is a shame, really.
Shame?
#48
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Reclined
Posts: 2,168
Learn about their system and how it really works; not the press releases. Their system isn't to be emulated.
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