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12-07-2006 | 10:31 AM
#31
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Just got back from SLCa few days ago. They have 2 RJ classes scheduled. 1/1/07 with 20 people and 1/22/07 with 50 people. Not many people have been showing up to the interview. The tech is fairly hard. Great group of people and company. Hopefully will get the good note in 5-10 days.
12-07-2006 | 10:48 AM
#32
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Jet Jock,
I am new at SkyWest and just used PBS for the first time last month. I read through the whole PBS manual and it still was a little over my head. How do I figure this thing out, do you have any pointers? Also, how are you able to get so many days off, and all that credit over block time? I am still new to all this obviously. Any info is greatly appreciated.
I am new at SkyWest and just used PBS for the first time last month. I read through the whole PBS manual and it still was a little over my head. How do I figure this thing out, do you have any pointers? Also, how are you able to get so many days off, and all that credit over block time? I am still new to all this obviously. Any info is greatly appreciated.
Some of it depends on your seniority, but I know at least one new-hire personally who got 16 days off his first month online.
You have multiple bid layers, use them wisely.
Your first bid layers should shoot for optimistic, but vaguely realistic stuff. If you try for unrealistic stuff (like xmas day off as a new-hire) you have just wasted that layer.
Later layers should be less optimistic.
As a new hire, if you want lots of days you can probably get them but only if you are wide-open as to what sorts of trips and schedules you will accept.
12-07-2006 | 11:10 AM
#34
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
A rig is a guaranteed flight hour pay for a non-flying time spent at work. A 1:2 rig means you get paid 1 flight hour for each 2 hours of duty.
Duty Rig (typically 1:2): Guarantees that you get paid for time actually spent on duty. A 6 hour day would guarantee 3 hours flight pay, even if you don't fly at all. If you fly more than 3, you get paid what you flew.
Trip Rig (typically 1:3): More of a major airline thing. Guarantees pay for time spent away from base. This prevents the company from giving a 38 hour layover in some cr@phole like TUS with no pay.
Daily Rig (typically 3-4 hours): If you go to work for any reason, including showing up for a cancelled flight, you get paid at least this much. Can also function as a trip rig.
Ready Reserve and deadhead usually credit either full or half flight pay, depending on the airline.
If you have no rigs at all (Mesa) the company can have you show up, do a 30 minute flight, sit around some airport for 6 hours, do another 30 minute flight, go to a hotel, hang out for 28 hours, then do a 30 minute flight home...all of which pays 1.5 hours for 2.5 days spent "at work".
Rigs and other workrules are FAR more important than hourly scales in the regional world...unfortunately the info web sites tend to focus on hourly pay scale instead of work rules.
Duty Rig (typically 1:2): Guarantees that you get paid for time actually spent on duty. A 6 hour day would guarantee 3 hours flight pay, even if you don't fly at all. If you fly more than 3, you get paid what you flew.
Trip Rig (typically 1:3): More of a major airline thing. Guarantees pay for time spent away from base. This prevents the company from giving a 38 hour layover in some cr@phole like TUS with no pay.
Daily Rig (typically 3-4 hours): If you go to work for any reason, including showing up for a cancelled flight, you get paid at least this much. Can also function as a trip rig.
Ready Reserve and deadhead usually credit either full or half flight pay, depending on the airline.
If you have no rigs at all (Mesa) the company can have you show up, do a 30 minute flight, sit around some airport for 6 hours, do another 30 minute flight, go to a hotel, hang out for 28 hours, then do a 30 minute flight home...all of which pays 1.5 hours for 2.5 days spent "at work".
Rigs and other workrules are FAR more important than hourly scales in the regional world...unfortunately the info web sites tend to focus on hourly pay scale instead of work rules.
12-07-2006 | 11:22 AM
#35
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A rig is a guaranteed flight hour pay for a non-flying time spent at work. A 1:2 rig means you get paid 1 flight hour for each 2 hours of duty.
Duty Rig (typically 1:2): Guarantees that you get paid for time actually spent on duty. A 6 hour day would guarantee 3 hours flight pay, even if you don't fly at all. If you fly more than 3, you get paid what you flew.
Trip Rig (typically 1:3): More of a major airline thing. Guarantees pay for time spent away from base. This prevents the company from giving a 38 hour layover in some cr@phole like TUS with no pay.
Daily Rig (typically 3-4 hours): If you go to work for any reason, including showing up for a cancelled flight, you get paid at least this much. Can also function as a trip rig.
Ready Reserve and deadhead usually credit either full or half flight pay, depending on the airline.
If you have no rigs at all (Mesa) the company can have you show up, do a 30 minute flight, sit around some airport for 6 hours, do another 30 minute flight, go to a hotel, hang out for 28 hours, then do a 30 minute flight home...all of which pays 1.5 hours for 2.5 days spent "at work".
Rigs and other workrules are FAR more important than hourly scales in the regional world...unfortunately the info web sites tend to focus on hourly pay scale instead of work rules.
Duty Rig (typically 1:2): Guarantees that you get paid for time actually spent on duty. A 6 hour day would guarantee 3 hours flight pay, even if you don't fly at all. If you fly more than 3, you get paid what you flew.
Trip Rig (typically 1:3): More of a major airline thing. Guarantees pay for time spent away from base. This prevents the company from giving a 38 hour layover in some cr@phole like TUS with no pay.
Daily Rig (typically 3-4 hours): If you go to work for any reason, including showing up for a cancelled flight, you get paid at least this much. Can also function as a trip rig.
Ready Reserve and deadhead usually credit either full or half flight pay, depending on the airline.
If you have no rigs at all (Mesa) the company can have you show up, do a 30 minute flight, sit around some airport for 6 hours, do another 30 minute flight, go to a hotel, hang out for 28 hours, then do a 30 minute flight home...all of which pays 1.5 hours for 2.5 days spent "at work".
Rigs and other workrules are FAR more important than hourly scales in the regional world...unfortunately the info web sites tend to focus on hourly pay scale instead of work rules.
That changes my prespective on what makes a good regional / bad regional.
I assume XJet , Sky, Republic have some of the better rigs / work rules out there. I can't imagine working for 24+ hours and only getting paid for 3 hours.
-LAFF
12-07-2006 | 11:26 AM
#36
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
XJet and SKW, yes. Not sure about CHQ, but I assume they are better than mesa.
12-07-2006 | 03:03 PM
#38
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Seriously though, some instructors I have known are salaried. It works both ways though. I know those ATP instructors only get paid $1200/mo regardless how much they fly. Others (Daniel Webster College I think) pays a salary plus flight pay when you are with a student. If you're bored out at the airport, stuff envelopes or something when you're not with a student. When I was instructing in college it was a good time to do homework and or study.
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