So regionals are having a hard time getting people to show up for class, this is stated by management not just pilots who hope for a pilot shortage, so I tend to believe it. With that being said, management wants to make the job even less appealing to potential prospects? This makes me think, what do they know that we dont? Do they not care about staffing eagle because theyre planning to shrink them anyway? Is the retirement age about to increase? Again creating years of stagnation and solving any staffing issues they might have? This proposal is troubling in many ways.

Everyone needs to realize that the regional airline business model only makes sense when the labor is cheap and not high up the longevity scale.

When your pilot group starts to leave either of those two categories, management is going to find a way to fix it. They don't care about staffing, careers, putting food on the table, etc. You are a cost to be minimized and a liability to be eliminated and replaced. They're not working with you, they're solving the problem that is "you." And they will.

Parker isn't stupid. He saw what happened with pinnacle an how easily they caved.

1. Make ridiculous proposal
2. Threaten to shutter company
3. Realize pilots take the attitude that a lousy job is better than losing it totally and being unemployed.
4. Laugh as union votes 90% in favor of further poverty.
5. Cash bonus check.


If alpa allows this to happen then they're more worthless than previous thought. We're already low paid compared to all the other blue collar skilled trades.

i agree. when was the last time a regional stood up and said fu pay me? comair and everyone remembers. management will continue to run the same play because every threatened regional votes 90% yes for more cuts.

All Parker needs is 50%+1. Take what were offering or will shrink you at the rate of attrition. Once small enough, your CRJ's will be acquired by another and you may be offered a job, but not with your seniority.

The question is, is will the membership cave on this threat which may or may not be valid or reject it ?

The big problem in the equation is the eagle MEC, will they stand up and do the right thing and tell them our contract is set and signed by the bankruptcy judge, we can talk but nothing is going to be done until 2017.

I agree with the comment about Pinnacle, but here's food for thought.
I was a no voter, but that aside... GoJet is gonna lose their Delta contract next year. It's done. Look I'm not bashing GoJet pilots I want to make that clear. Now next year GoJet is gonna be looking for business and you can guarantee that they will have their names in the hat for some of that AA flying.
I work for Pinnacle and I'm one of the biggest critics out there, but Eagle guys wait until your fighting to stay a float when GoJet comes in and says they can do your 700 flying at half of what you do it for.
It will get ugly.

Why is gojet losing their delta flying? I would think delta loves gojet. They've been a very effective whipsawing tool thus far.

The job they did is done, at least at Delta.
I'm not gonna say you heard it here first or any of that crap, but GoJet is done in the Delta system.
I'm not saying the airline is finished because I'm sure AA has a place for them.
I can say with a "fair amount of certainty" that all of GoJets 700 are going to Pinnacle.
Yes I work at Pinnacle, but could careless about their planes coming here, but if you could see the amount of money from Delta coming into our airline to start a 700 program you would agree.
But I have a feeling that something is lined up for them and I think it's AA flying.
GoJet was brought in as part of a plan to replace Pinnacle if we went under, and since we didn't their out if we did GoJet would have been huge in the Delta system. It was a gamble and GoJet lost that one, but I bet not in the future.

GoJet is losing their Delta flying due to absolutely horrendous performance. They were warned by Delta that they were not meeting their operational goals and that provisions in the contract allow for it to be terminated if said goals were not met. GoJet was given the opportunity to better their performance and failed.